W3C

– DRAFT –
WoT-IG/WG

11 January 2023

Attendees

Present
Daniel_Peintner, David_Ezell, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool Cristiano_Aguzzi, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
-
Chair
McCool/Sebastian
Scribe
cris_

Meeting minutes

Greeting

McCool: welcome back
… this is the first meeting of the year

Guests

McCool: no guest

Minutes review

<kaz> Dec-21

McCool: last meeting December 21st
… will talk about the slides later on
… I forgot to update the calandar, but now next week is correct
… regarding testfest. Today we are going to have the testing call but only if Ege and Fady will be there
… implementation reports are now up to date
… DID entry is problematic, still working on it

McCool: does the decision about sciriting api call read a resolution?

Kaz: to me is a good custom to report task force decisions on the main call
… but technically it should be co-moderator no co-chair

McCool: ok then it should be updated

Kaz: ok fixed

McCool: any other objections?
… ok minutes accepted

CCNC Workshop

< showing slides to be presented >

McCool: those slides are good to show commercial impact of our work
… added a slides about groups
… I have a slide for orchestration, but I don't like the word orchestration. Plus can somebody check if I use the right script versioning
… I'm missing relevant screenshots about SayWoT

McCool: beware that I had to use images instead of slides for some project. This increase the size of the presentation.

Sebastian: Editor should be listed

cris: maybe also TDD implementations?

McCool: not for now, but maybe in the future

McCool: I changed a little bit the style of Webthings slides to be consistent with our style

McCool: I added also a list of other type of connections that we had during this charter

<Zakim> dape, you wanted to dart_wot

<dape> https://www.w3.org/WoT/developers/

Daniel: we have a list of open source projects in our WoT website
… see the link above
… total slides count 41
… try to reduce them a bit to fit under 45 minutes

Kaz: I commented on the PR
… I'm concerned about the slides
… people will be confused
… and misunderstands everything what W3C does.
… you should clearly explain at every point who does what
… remember that some of the companies you listed are not inside w3c
… it should be clear that they are not inside w3c

McCool: is it a note enough?

Kaz: we can add a new section
… a new empty slide with a clear statment about the fact that they are external implementations

Sebastian: I would not say external implementations, but maybe adoptions

Kaz: regarding NHK and Takenaka, I talked with them and they are ok but please add a url to their slides.

<kaz> https://www.w3.org/2022/Talks/0914-smartcities-ka/20220914-dt-sc-ka.pdf

McCool: ok I'll replace Takenaka slides with the link above

Kaz: you should also change the name to be IPA DADC. Also you should clearly separate the WG/IG work from the CG work.

McCool: ok

McCool: thank you for the feedback

testing call

Sebastian: Ege is still on vacation time

McCool: ok then we'll cancel today call

Use Cases updates

Use Cases call

McCool: we'll have special calls for Charter next week
… I missed yesterday's call

Lagally: very small group
… we continued the work of the previous use case calls
… we reviewed the gaps

Lagally: repository use-cases and under folder USE-CASES

Lagally: we have matrix with use cases and gaps for each specification document
… we created an md document for that
… for next charter ideas

Lagally: we have also a slide somewhere
… there still some work to do to extract requirements

clarify adoption policy

McCool: we have to clarify how to move IG work on use cases and requirements to WG

McCool: I created an issue to capture the discussion
… we are going to discuss it in detail in the next week special meeting

publications

McCool: CR transitions approved
… but we have a problem with discovery regarding Discovery
… with DID
… moreover we missed the deadline for Discovery
… and therefore we are not able to reach PR for discovery
… this requires to extend the current charter to additional 4 months

Lagally: from profile prospective. This extension gives us the opportunity to conclude profile and go to CR in this charter period

<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to remind we need to check the schedule for next week as well (after making resolution)

McCool: still very tight timeline

<McCool_> proposal: In order to have time to reach PR status for our deliverables, the WoT WG will request a 4-month extension to the current charter, to May 31, 2023

McCool: but the exstetion is for all deliverables not only Discovery.

RESOLUTION: In order to have time to reach PR status for our deliverables, the WoT WG will request a 4-month extension to the current charter, to May 31, 2023

ACTION: kaz to ask w3m for a 4-mo extension

Charter meeting next week and chancellations

<kaz> Agenda for the Charter meeting next week

<kaz> Cancellations

McCool: next week everything is canceled
… except the profile call
… I updated the calander
… edit the wiki if you want to change the agenda

Lagally: do we have to talk about liasons and registries in the organization section ?

McCool: we can move it back, but maybe we don't have time

Lagally: maybe it is better to move the discussion to another day

McCool: I prefer to get a introduction about registers and liasons in the first day

Daniel: in the calendar is stated to be 2 our slots

McCool: I have to clean the calendar
… it is only two hours on Wednesday

Discovery problem

McCool: we have a problem with DID but to fix it we need a second CR
… that's why it is delayed
… any other business?

Kaz: regarding the Discovery specification I'll talk with PLH quickly to see which would be the best way.
… then regarding the Charter meeting next week, I'd suggest we extend the length of the first agenda item of the first day: organization -> 20 min

McCool: let me put 15 min for now and let's see.

[adjourned]

Summary of action items

  1. kaz to ask w3m for a 4-mo extension

Summary of resolutions

  1. In order to have time to reach PR status for our deliverables, the WoT WG will request a 4-month extension to the current charter, to May 31, 2023
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 197 (Tue Nov 8 15:42:48 2022 UTC).