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Discussion on Profile
Sebastian: unfortunately, no time to discuss Profile topics during the Architecture/Profile call right before this call
… would use 10-15 mins now
Lagally: we have 11 PRs for wot-profile
… Testfest expected in December
… no Architecture/Profile call tomorrow
… would see the PRs now
Pr 324 - December Testfest Preparation - implementation cross reference and xref tool
Lagally: created an additional README for report generation
… also updated the original README with how to provide results for Profile
… also several CSVs: assertion-totals.csv, implementation-xref.csv, template.csv
… and tool for cross-referencing
Ege: PR itself is fine
… but wot-testing repo should be used to get the test results from the implementers, shouldn't it?
… we should clarify our policy which to go
… putting the results on the spec repo
… or wot-testing
Lagally: point taking
… would like to keep things simple
… we can copy the results to the wot-testing area for the Testfest later
Ege: wot-testing repo has sub-directories for data handling already
… so people would be confused by this new proposal
Lagally: this approach itself is simple
Kaz: let's have more discussion during the Testing call later about how to handle the data for testing
… we just have 10 mins for Profile discussion during the main call now
Sebastian: did quick check on the wot-testing repo
… we already have README files there on how to organize the tests
… so not sure why we need to put this information under the wot-profile repo
Lagally: I'm OK with having this information under the wot-testing repo
… but we should have cross-referencing mechanism between the WoT Profile spec and its testing work
Ege: would suggest we not merge this PR and discuss it further during the Testing call
Lagally: would suggest we merge this and have further discussion later during the Testing call
Ege: would object we merge this PR...
Sebastian: also would suggest we discuss this during the Testing call
Daniel: +1
Sebastian: let's stop this discussion, and continue the discussion during the Testing call
Quick updates
IIWOT 23
Sebastian: our proposed invited talk itself is accepted
… but the are only 4 submissions for the workshop
… the question is now whether we really want to join the workshop or not
… would hear from McCool as well
Cancellations
Sebastian: no Architecture/Profile call tomorrow on Nov 17
… also no calls during the weeks of Dec 26 and Jan 2
Publications
Sebastian: got comments from Ralph on the exit criteria
… so have added clarification for TD and Discovery
<sebastian_> https://
Sebastian: generated a draft Transition Request for Architecture
Lagally: would review it
Sebastian: ok
… Regarding WoT Profile
… planning to have an updated WD by Dec 8 so that we can use it for the Testfest
Societal Impact Questionnaire
Sebastian: McCool is working on that
Sebastian: would publish an updated WD for Profile on Dec 21
WG Charter
Sebastian: confused with how to proceed
Kaz: the above Issue 978 on WoT WG Charter is kind of obsolete
… so we should rather create new Issues and PRs to update the draft Charter
… we should add an explicit label of "WG Charter", etc., for that discussion
Sebastian: good point
… (generates a new label of "WG New Charter Plans 2023")
Liaisons
Sebastian: no specific updates on OPC or DTDL
… would like to consider creating a dedicated TF for the OPC liaison
… but should have discussion during the WG Charter topic
… need to ask Erich about his availability for the next meeting
Collaborations
WoT CG
Ege: Cristiano and I had discussions on "Office Hours"
… around JSON Schema, etc.
… every Thursday
… also confirmed to have meetups
… with Deutsch Telekom on smart homes
… then Netzo
… next week, we'll have concrete link
… planned on Dec 15
Kaz: "Office Hours" is a generic term, but used for a meeting with AC Reps to supplement the discussion on virtual AC meetings. so it might be better to use another term for your event.
… regarding the meetup, we should not advertise non-Members work :)
… should be careful about how to manage the discussion
Ege: understood
Lagally: outreach from the CG?
… potential adapters who would be able to provide use cases
<Ege> +1 this :)
Lagally: hope that the CG would bring new Members for WoT
WoT-JP CG
Mizushima: JP CG is planning to have events on use cases and plugfest/testfest next year
APA
Lagally: asking the APA Chair to review the WoT Profile spec
… from accessibility viewpoints like screen reader
[adjourned; testing call in 8 mins]