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XForms Users Community Group Teleconference

21 October 2022

Attendees

Present
Alain, Erik, Steven
Regrets
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Chair
Steven
Scribe
Steven

Meeting minutes

ACTION-2323: Write spec text for xforms-submit-ready (Alain)

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022May/0004

Alain: I have added two examples, and some properties to make it usable with the event function: using message to inspect values, and replacing an instance with replacement

ACTION: Steven and Erik, check the new submit-ready text

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2325 - And erik, check the new submit-ready text [on Steven Pemberton - due 2022-10-28].

ACTION-2314: Compose text that matches the <control/> discussion for

mirroring (Steven)

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Oct/0006.html

Erik: I don't have answers to those questions yet
… 1) Should the data be shared with default instance. In our implementation, we have an attribute that says which instance to use.

Steven: If you leave it out?

Erik: It doesn't mirror then
… It might be good to do that to prevent others getting to the data. You have to be explicit that you are willing to mirror.

Erik: Q2 Do you copy in, or supply a reference?
… References to an ancestor would be different, so I think it matters, for 'privacy'.
… I will send an email on this to)
… Q3) Where does the event appear?
… we have an ID of the binding where the incoming events are dispatched to.
… we would either to have a special ID, I'm not convinced it should be the model.

Steven: The model is where a lot of default events that gets sent, eg xforms-ready

Erik: We have a way to declaratively attach listeners with XML Events
… it would also be possible to have a special ID
… to attach listeners
… for special things
… I'll write this down

Steven: Q4? Events bubbling out?

Erik: In general they don't bubble out.

Steven: True, but you still need a mesage to dispatch an event out of the form

Erik: We have a special ID for this purpose.
… so XForms would need a way to say something similar

Steven: If it is not embedded, the events don't happen or just disappear?

Erik: Yes.
… or maybe you could listen to events sent to the speciall ID

Steven: And use that to discover if you are embedded?

Erik: Possible

Alain: I was thinking about passing by ref or copy.
… It is possible to have many input controls for the same node, but that wouldn't be possible if we do a copy
… I'm not sure if this is good or bad.

Steven: Though hopefully the mirroring would solve that

AOB

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Summary of action items

  1. Steven and Erik, check the new submit-ready text
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