Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference

28 September 2022


mhakkinen, NeilS, Sarah_Wood

Meeting minutes

Agenda Review & Announcements

TPAC debrief

<IrfanAli> janina: WHATWG asked to create a ticket to bring SSML as first class citizen into HTML

<IrfanAli> janina: if that is still the preferred direction, it is good idea to create a ticket

SSML as a first-class object was not rejected out of hand by WHATWG. They said we should create an issue.

<IrfanAli> mhakkinen: who made that statement from WHATWG?

<IrfanAli> janina: Simon Peters, Michael Smith, and Ana

p, s, sub, mark are the tags we know have conflict (possibly audio)

one possible solution is to namespace (e.g., ssml-*) all of the elements which means we already have a prototype imlpementation with custom elements.

another option is to rename the few conflict tags

by versioning SSML

Next Steps

we'll need someone to draft the issue to WHATWG

we'll need to address the conflicts with 1-n solutions and then vote on them as a group?

janina: APA should create the issue. Someone from pronunciation could draft and file/send to list

should we list potential solutions? Or just open the issue and wait for WHATWG to bring them up?

i18n seemed to be a handled issue by the list (RFC here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5646)

iANA list here: https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry

often used by (maybe we should consult librarians) https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry

another item we should address, the growing list metadata that we feel we need

and a possible mechanism for user opt-in

make sure we can merge ELM with SSML

<janina> https://www.w3.org/2022/09/15-apa-minutes.html#t12

without EML prototypes do we know it's solving a problem?

<Sarah_Wood> Was it named Mary Open source TTS Systems? Not sure

That might have been the one Debbie mentioned


<mhakkinen> https://developers.google.com/search/docs/appearance/structured-data/speakable

Other Business

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