IRC log of pronunciation on 2022-09-28

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16:07:41 [PaulG]
zakim, agenda?
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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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4. Other Business [from PaulG]
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Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 28 September 2022
16:07:45 [Sarah_Wood]
present+
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zakim, clear agenda
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agenda cleared
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present+
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Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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Agenda+ TPAC debrief
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Agenda+ Next Steps
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Agenda+ Other Business
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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from PaulG]
16:08:52 [janina]
agenda?
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present+
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agendum 2 -- TPAC debrief -- taken up [from PaulG]
16:12:01 [IrfanAli]
janina: WHATWG asked to create a ticket to bring SSML as first class citizen into HTML
16:12:34 [IrfanAli]
janina: if that is still the preferred direction, it is good idea to create a ticket
16:12:45 [PaulG]
SSML as a first-class object was not rejected out of hand by WHATWG. They said we should create an issue.
16:13:43 [IrfanAli]
mhakkinen: who made that statement from WHATWG?
16:14:25 [IrfanAli]
janina: Simon Peters, Michael Smith, and Ana
16:19:22 [PaulG]
p, s, sub, mark are the tags we know have conflict (possibly audio)
16:26:04 [PaulG]
one possible solution is to namespace (e.g., ssml-*) all of the elements which means we already have a prototype imlpementation with custom elements.
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another option is to rename the few conflict tags
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by versioning SSML
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- Next Steps -- taken up [from PaulG]
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we'll need someone to draft the issue to WHATWG
16:28:54 [PaulG]
we'll need to address the conflicts with 1-n solutions and then vote on them as a group?
16:29:40 [PaulG]
janina: APA should create the issue. Someone from pronunciation could draft and file/send to list
16:30:41 [PaulG]
should we list potential solutions? Or just open the issue and wait for WHATWG to bring them up?
16:33:26 [PaulG]
i18n seemed to be a handled issue by the list (RFC here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5646)
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iANA list here: https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry
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often used by (maybe we should consult librarians) https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry
16:35:50 [PaulG]
another item we should address, the growing list metadata that we feel we need
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and a possible mechanism for user opt-in
16:38:19 [PaulG]
make sure we can merge ELM with SSML
16:40:51 [janina]
https://www.w3.org/2022/09/15-apa-minutes.html#t12
16:41:13 [PaulG]
without EML prototypes do we know it's solving a problem?
16:41:19 [Sarah_Wood]
Was it named Mary Open source TTS Systems? Not sure
16:44:13 [PaulG]
That might have been the one Debbie mentioned
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https://schema.org/speakable
16:47:10 [mhakkinen]
https://developers.google.com/search/docs/appearance/structured-data/speakable
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zakim, next item
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agendum 4 -- Other Business -- taken up [from PaulG]
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 4 closed
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I see nothing remaining on the agenda
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/28-pronunciation-minutes.html PaulG
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