W3C

WAI Curricula Task Force Teleconference

23 August 2022

Attendees

Present
BrianE, Daniel, Howard
Regrets
Brent, Estella, Sarah
Chair
Daniel
Scribe
dmontalvo

Meeting minutes

Rewriting Topic Visual Appearance https://content-author-modules--wai-curricula.netlify.app/curricula/content-author-modules/clear-content/#topic-visual-appearance

https://wai-curricula.netlify.app/curricula/content-author-modules/clear-content/#topic-visual-appearance

Brian: Maybe move "grouping" to the end

Howard: Content grouping makes it clear

Daniel: We are going to use "content grouping" and we will move this to the end so that it's clearer

Brian: LOs 3 bullet, maybe split these into two
… Overall grouping would be oen bullet and the other inner space, fonts, and alignment would be the other one

Daniel: Will do these changes

Module 3: Forms -- Breaking down the responsibilities of each of the roles involved in labels, instructions, and error messages https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/637

https://content-author-modules--wai-curricula.netlify.app/curricula/content-author-modules/forms/

Brian: MAybe instead of says who does what, we should explain why we are saying that these elements require collaboration between different team members

Module 3: Forms -- Referencing placeholder https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/636 ]

https://content-author-modules--wai-curricula.netlify.app/curricula/content-author-modules/forms/

Brian: It could be added a references that labels should be persistently visible, mentioning that if text disappears that's an issue for many people

Howard: I consider placeholders text placed in the field, as long as it's in the field, that's a placeholder

Brian: That word is an HTML attribute but it is also a word in common language, I think we can use it for purposes different than the code meaning

Spanning on layout tables explanation

https://content-author-modules--wai-curricula.netlify.app/curricula/content-author-modules/data-tables/

https://wai-curricula.netlify.app/curricula/content-author-modules/data-tables/

Howard: More important message is "try to avoid them"
… "identify situations ..." we should not have that sentence because it may imply that there are situations where layout tables are allowed

Brian: Maybe "explain why tables should ont be used for layout purpose"

Howard: The specific example of emails is wordy. The approach is not to give too many examples when we are talking about exceptions

Daniel: Change to "explain the accessibility problems of layout tables and avoid them where possible" kind of formulation. Explore if we should mention the email example ,but not get too much into details

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