W3C

– DRAFT –
WAI Adapt Task Force Teleconference

25 July 2022

Attendees

Present
becky, CharlesL, janina_, Lionel_Wolberger, Roy, Sharon
Regrets
Mike
Chair
Lionel_Wolberger
Scribe
janina

Meeting minutes

<Lionel_Wolberger> regrets Mike B\

CfC for Content Module 1.0 CR Status

Roy: We have the APA decision to go CR, and I've started the process

<Roy> https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/443

Roy: Tried to get transition in time for ADA anniversary tomorrow, but we are blocked

Roy: Three requests to resolve

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.2/#candidate-recommendation-exit-criteria

<Roy> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/476

Roy: Director not convinced we've accomplished TAG's requests

Roy: Also overlaps with MQ5 in TAG not clear is resolved

Roy: third issue to list BCI as normative; should be easy to do

Roy: Note currently in PDF but we're planning to move to W3C Registry

Lionel_Wolberger: Looking to review with headings

<Roy> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/adapt/CR-content-2022-07-26/snapshot/CRD-adapt-content-20220726.html

Exit Criteria

<Lionel_Wolberger> URL, https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.2/#candidate-recommendation-exit-criteria

Roy: Above is an example from ARIA that we need to have an analog for in our document

Lionel_Wolberger: Happy to help draft

Matthew_Atkinson: Happy to help

Lionel_Wolberger: Example looks good and helpful

TAG Response Resolution

Sharon: Notes TAG closed

Roy: Believed it's because we weren't responding

Roy: Also don't understand

<Roy> Rossen Atanassov

Roy: Suggesting opening request with TAG to review current CR transition draft

[discussion on documenting our response to TAG comments]

<becky> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/476#issuecomment-727019511

<Sharon> TR Explainer https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Explainer-for-Personalization-Semantics

[group digging through various archives]

becky: Appears meeting with TAG was around (or during) TPAC 2021

Sharon: I'll do the forensic research to see what we need yet to do, and what we have to document what's done

<Roy> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Oct/0036.html

Documenting BCI reliance is normative

Roy: For now we normatively reference the PDF

Roy: We will add a note pointing out we will replace this with a W3C Registy specification

<Lionel_Wolberger> PDF file's recent name, BCI-AV_2020-03-09_(en+sv+no+fi)+derivations+symbols_8483-27158

<Lionel_Wolberger> Excel format, BCI-AV_2020-03-09_(en+sv+no+fi+hu+de+nl+af+ru+lv+po+fr+es+pt+it+dk)+derivations_8483-27158.xls

lionel: Believe there's an Excel

Janina: We should chase down Excel, and maybe request CSV for now

<Lionel_Wolberger> On the Bliss site, https://www.blissymbolics.org/index.php/symbol-files

<CharlesL1> https://www.xelify.se/files/BCI-AV_2020-03-09_(en%2Bsv%2Bno%2Bfi%2Bhu%2Bde%2Bnl%2Baf%2Bru%2Blv%2Bpo%2Bfr%2Bes%2Bpt%2Bit%2Bdk)%2Bderivations_8483-27158.xls

<Lionel_Wolberger> TEXT OF THE LINK: Excel spreadsheet with ID's, glosses, and derivations and without symbols (more manageable)

<Roy> http://www.blissymbolics.net/BCI-AV_2020-03-09/BCI-AV_2020-03-09_(en+sv+no+fi+hu+de+nl+af+ru+lv+po+fr+es+pt+it+dk)+derivations_8483-27158.xls

CharlesL1: Confirms is a downloadable doc

<Lionel_Wolberger> Column AI has the BCI-AV#, and column B has the English label for the symbol

<Lionel_Wolberger> s\AI\A

janina: Suggests comma delimited would be best if they could give it us;

Lionel_Wolberger: Notes the symbols themselves are not in Excel

[several people noting a11y problems with PDF]

Lionel_Wolberger: notes PDF includes a rendering of the symbol, but the Excel does not

Sharon: Notes we don't use the rendering

Lionel_Wolberger: That's correct

Lionel_Wolberger: Agrees the whole point of the spec is that users are facilitated to use their preferred symbols; so the PDF symbols are illustrative but not dispositive

Lionel_Wolberger: We don't rely on that; only on the ID and the concept

Matthew_Atkinson: Suggests we may consider being able to select among symbol sets when we write our registry spec so that people can see what this is about

Matthew_Atkinson: And it could be just part of the table because we're only illustrating

<Lionel_Wolberger> http://www.blissymbolics.net/BCI-AV_2020-03-09/BCI-AV_2020-03-09_(en+sv+no+fi+hu+de+nl+af+ru+lv+po+fr+es+pt+it+dk)+derivations_8483-27158.xls

implementation report

Roy: have a draft in our repo

Roy: please check!

roy: We need a report template in order to enter CR; completed it will document our transition to PR

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 192 (Tue Jun 28 16:55:30 2022 UTC).

Diagnostics

Maybe present: CharlesL1, Janina, lionel, Matthew_Atkinson