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13:57:11 <trackbot> Meeting: WAI Adapt Task Force Teleconference
13:57:11 <trackbot> Date: 25 July 2022
13:57:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, clear agenda
13:57:15 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:57:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ CfC for Content Module 1.0 CR Status
13:57:51 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Respond to issue #203
13:58:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ TPAC 12-16 September 2022 preparations
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13:58:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Discuss @rel vs. purpose/destination/action.
13:58:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Content Module Implementations Status, focus on new candidates
13:59:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ BCI Registry Implementation: Next step, write spec?
13:59:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Plan future COGA meetings on our other two modules
13:59:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> chair: Lionel_Wolberger
13:59:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
13:59:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> regrets Mike B\
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14:01:31 <Roy> present+
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14:04:20 <Sharon> present+
14:04:24 <janina_> present+
14:05:39 <becky> present+
14:07:36 <janina_> scribe+ janina
14:07:48 <janina_> zakim, next item
14:07:48 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- CfC for Content Module 1.0 CR Status -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:08:23 <janina_> Roy: We have the APA decision to go CR, and I've started the process
14:08:46 <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/443
14:08:50 <janina_> Roy: Tried to get transition in time for ADA anniversary tomorrow, but we are blocked
14:09:16 <janina_> Roy: Three requests to resolve
14:09:33 <Roy> https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.2/#candidate-recommendation-exit-criteria
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14:09:57 <Lioonel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:09:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/25-adapt-minutes.html Lioonel_Wolberger
14:10:09 <Roy> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/476
14:10:39 <janina_> Roy: Director not convinced we've accomplished TAG's requests
14:11:48 <janina_> Roy: Also overlaps with MQ5 in TAG not clear is resolved
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14:12:10 <janina_> Roy: third issue to list BCI as normative; should be easy to do
14:12:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:12:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/25-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
14:12:31 <janina_> Roy: Note currently in PDF but we're planning to move to W3C Registry
14:13:08 <janina_> Lionel_Wolberger: Looking to review with headings
14:13:25 <Roy> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/adapt/CR-content-2022-07-26/snapshot/CRD-adapt-content-20220726.html
14:13:38 <janina_> subtopic: Exit Criteria
14:13:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> URL, https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.2/#candidate-recommendation-exit-criteria
14:14:19 <janina_> Roy: Above is an example from ARIA that we need to have an analog for in our document
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14:15:38 <CharlesL1> present+
14:16:31 <janina_> Lionel_Wolberger: Happy to help draft
14:16:36 <janina_> Matthew_Atkinson: Happy to help
14:16:56 <janina_> Lionel_Wolberger: Example looks good and helpful
14:18:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
14:18:32 <janina_> subtopic: TAG Response Resolution
14:18:33 <CharlesL1> rrsagent, make logs public
14:18:43 <CharlesL1> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:18:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/25-adapt-minutes.html CharlesL1
14:19:18 <janina_> Sharon: Notes TAG closed
14:19:30 <janina_> Roy: Believed it's because we weren't responding
14:19:36 <janina_> Roy: Also don't understand
14:21:33 <Roy> Rossen Atanassov
14:24:33 <janina_> Roy: Suggesting opening request with TAG to review current CR transition draft
14:25:19 <janina_> [discussion on documenting our response to TAG comments]
14:29:28 <becky> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/476#issuecomment-727019511
14:29:51 <Sharon> TR Explainer https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Explainer-for-Personalization-Semantics
14:31:36 <janina_> [group digging through various archives]
14:35:29 <janina_> becky: Appears meeting with TAG was around (or during)  TPAC 2021
14:36:41 <janina_> Sharon: I'll do the forensic research to see what we need yet to do, and what we have to document what's done
14:36:59 <Roy> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Oct/0036.html
14:40:54 <janina_> subtopic: Documenting BCI reliance is normative
14:41:08 <janina_> Roy: For now we normatively reference the PDF
14:41:31 <janina_> Roy: We will add a note pointing out we will replace this with a W3C Registy specification
14:42:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> PDF file's recent name, BCI-AV_2020-03-09_(en+sv+no+fi)+derivations+symbols_8483-27158
14:43:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> Excel format, BCI-AV_2020-03-09_(en+sv+no+fi+hu+de+nl+af+ru+lv+po+fr+es+pt+it+dk)+derivations_8483-27158.xls
14:43:48 <janina_> lionel: Believe there's an Excel
14:44:12 <janina_> Janina: We should chase down Excel, and maybe request CSV for now
14:44:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> On the Bliss site, https://www.blissymbolics.org/index.php/symbol-files
14:44:40 <CharlesL1> https://www.xelify.se/files/BCI-AV_2020-03-09_(en%2Bsv%2Bno%2Bfi%2Bhu%2Bde%2Bnl%2Baf%2Bru%2Blv%2Bpo%2Bfr%2Bes%2Bpt%2Bit%2Bdk)%2Bderivations_8483-27158.xls
14:44:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> TEXT OF THE LINK: Excel spreadsheet with ID's, glosses, and derivations and without symbols (more manageable)
14:46:08 <Roy> http://www.blissymbolics.net/BCI-AV_2020-03-09/BCI-AV_2020-03-09_(en+sv+no+fi+hu+de+nl+af+ru+lv+po+fr+es+pt+it+dk)+derivations_8483-27158.xls
14:46:32 <janina_> CharlesL1: Confirms is a downloadable doc
14:46:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> Column AI has the BCI-AV#, and column B has the English label for the symbol
14:46:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> s\AI\A
14:48:10 <janina_> janina: Suggests comma delimited would be best if they could give it us;
14:48:25 <janina_> Lionel_Wolberger: Notes the symbols themselves are not in Excel
14:48:37 <janina_> [several people noting a11y problems with PDF]
14:49:15 <janina_> Lionel_Wolberger: notes PDF includes a rendering of the symbol, but the Excel does not
14:49:21 <janina_> Sharon: Notes we don't use the rendering
14:49:26 <janina_> Lionel_Wolberger: That's correct
14:49:52 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
14:49:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/25-adapt-minutes.html Matthew_Atkinson
14:50:37 <janina_> Lionel_Wolberger: Agrees the whole point of the spec is that users are facilitated to use their preferred symbols; so the PDF symbols are illustrative but not dispositive
14:50:50 <janina_> Lionel_Wolberger: We don't rely on that; only on the ID and the concept
14:51:52 <janina_> Matthew_Atkinson: Suggests we may consider being able to select among symbol sets when we write our registry spec so that people can see what this is about
14:52:45 <janina_> Matthew_Atkinson: And it could be just part of the table because we're only illustrating
14:53:26 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
14:53:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/25-adapt-minutes.html Matthew_Atkinson
14:53:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> http://www.blissymbolics.net/BCI-AV_2020-03-09/BCI-AV_2020-03-09_(en+sv+no+fi+hu+de+nl+af+ru+lv+po+fr+es+pt+it+dk)+derivations_8483-27158.xls
14:54:56 <janina_> topic: implementation report
14:55:05 <janina_> Roy: have a draft in our repo
14:55:11 <janina_> Roy: please check!
14:56:25 <janina_> roy: We need a report template in order to enter CR; completed it will document our transition to PR
14:57:11 <janina_> regrets: Mike
14:57:16 <janina_> zakim, who's here?
14:57:16 <Zakim> Present: Lionel_Wolberger, Roy, Sharon, janina_, becky, CharlesL
14:57:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see CharlesL1, Lionel_Wolberger, janina_, Sharon, Matthew_Atkinson, Zakim, RRSAgent, janina, trackbot
14:57:32 <janina_> zakim, bye
14:57:32 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Lionel_Wolberger, Roy, Sharon, janina_, becky, CharlesL
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14:57:36 <janina_> rrsagent, make minutes
14:57:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/25-adapt-minutes.html janina_
14:59:12 <janina_> rrsagent, bye
14:59:12 <RRSAgent> I see no action items