W3C

– DRAFT –
Web Authentication WG

29 June 2022

Attendees

Present
agl, andypeterson, davidturner, dveditz, elundberg, jfontana, johnbradley, johnpascoe, martinkreichgauer, matthewmiller, nadalin, nina, sbweeden, suekoomen, timcappalli, wseltzer
Regrets
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Chair
Fontana, Nadalin
Scribe
jfontana

Meeting minutes

thanks, Wendy

tony: we are scheduled for TPAC.
… on agenda for Monday Sept 12.
… we have join meetings for tuesday with Web payments and other groups
… on wednesday can do other work or go home.
… suggest those in-person look at W3C web site.

wendy: some inter-group participation.
… putting a lot into being a good hybrid meeting
… registration should be opening soon

Tony: Wednesday is submit your topic.

tony

<nina> thank you

agl: I can help with review if the others are busy

https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1733

elundberg: I made sme changes for it to be more clear.

agl: think this is good.

https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1732

agl: no response from Mozilla, no changes so far.

tony: how long should we wait?

agl: that comes from Akshay

jbradley: I am good with it.
… fine to merge now, but check with Aksay

tony: Tim? Issues?

<dveditz> Who did you send that to at Mozilla?

tim: I am getting it done.

https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1703

<dveditz> My mic is apparently not working

mattM: in a good state right now, need a bit of feedback
… with no objections, we can land as is

tony: I would like to see this in the first draft.
… any issue moving forward

matt: will merge and follow up

nickS: think it is fine

https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1663

agl: still in works to some extent, but settling
… at face to face questions about attestation stuff
… its a large PR now
… but it is significant
… read it

tony: we will resolve everyone's comments

tony: aimed at first public draft.
… before TPAC in late August

agl: we have a similar target

jbradley: looking at some issues we may have with Windows
… we are changing things beyond extension

agL; working on some CTAP issues also

https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1576

nina: looking to merge this

tony: Matthew and shane can you look at this

tony: want to get this into first draft since implementd.

agL; want to merge it now, but if people want a read, go ahead

shane: no objection
… I want to relook at it
… I did not that and I see the implementation and I am happy

tony: so change status to approve

tony: matthew merge?

mattM: yes

https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1425

tony: sitll on hold, nothing new

https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1755

agl: the name of cable is hybrid
… its the new name
… I will look at this

https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1744

shane: I won't object to this

jbradely: : akshay was leaning against this
… do we need another nob to move?
… what this means and how to implement this may cause more confusion

elundberg: browser best effort may be the best we get
… it is enough?

tim: then why to we do DPK

mattM: sitll value for DPK

shane: will be some RPs without DPK, but still might want a credential
… there are a broader set of comments in GitHub; some looking for more control

mattM: also the point that if you want a single device credential, need to have an authentication and see value created.

Tim: if you don't like a security key you reject it.

mattM: then why is credential around?
… should not go forward with this. don't see how this is different from other authenticators.

tony: is anyone agansit this

?

agL: don't think this proposal is the way to go.

Tim: I am supportive of the idea, but concerned on this method
… I would like an MDM policy

agl: policy could be best way to go

elundberg: we have added
… so I am leaning against it.
… but not a hard opinion either way

mattM: issue that continues to bug me, alternative way to approach this without new parameter
… was a proposal to delete credentials, can we revive that

shane: worried about the user experience
… should have been presented upfront

agl: think this is two issues
… backburner the notion this will not work.

tony: so leave #1744 open

tony: https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1757
… this could be forwarded to Web Authn adoption group

tony: does Matt want to champion this issue;

matt: I will make editorial note in the spec.

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