W3C

– DRAFT –
ixml Group Teleconference

17 May 2022

Attendees

Present
Bethan, John, Michael, Norm, Steven
Regrets
Tomos
Chair
Steven
Scribe
Steven

Meeting minutes

Action items

Norm: JWL did the actions, and the fixes have been pushed

Status reports

Norm: My GLL implementation is partially working.

John: I am passing all the tests, plus insertions.

Steven: I thought there was a test with comments everywhere.

John: No.

Norm: Does sound familiar.

John: Insertions have been interesting.

Steven: Testing?

Norm: I've committed tests with newlines fixed

John: Newline handling -- some tests it adds more ambiguity

Norm: That's a bug. Please let me know so I can fix it.

Issues

Steven: Working from https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022May/0027

Steven: I am fighting with git.

Norm: I will commit it.

Steven: It's on my staging site.

Norm: I want to go back to calling it "attribute" not unstructured.

ACTION: Steven to revert wording to attribute

Norm: Forbidding xmlns as an attribute

Michael: we don't need to

Norm: It would be clearer if we were explicit

ACTION: Steven to add wording forbidding xmlns

Norm: Issue 26, ambiguity

Michael: I'm sorry to reraise this. The current wording troubles me.
… the point is that conforming processors are allowed to behave differently
… also the current wording is not true
… none of the algorithms we mention define ambiguity.

ACTION: Steven to insert Michael's ambiguity text

<norm> https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/26

Michael: last comment on that thread

John: What is the meaning of ambiguity

Michael: We don't define that. There is a gap between the standard definition, and our spec.
… if a rule produces empty in two different ways, is a matter of how you produce the parse tree.

Norm: I think we are closed for 1.0 spec, and sign off next week in time for Prague.

Michael: Great!

AOB

Michael: How do we make the best possible splash?

Bethan: Mascots!

Steven: An XML made of glass.

Bethan: A ghost animal?

Norm: We need a slot on the program.

ACTION: Steven to contact Prague.

Steven: We need a resources pointer -- where to get implementations, example grammars

Steven: I am giving the ixml tutorial at Prague

Bethan: Cheshire cat
… not in copyright

Norm: We plan to do a session at Balisage. We should do that. It's all virtual
… we need to work on what we want to do for pubs and PR for Prague and Balisage

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<norm> If you're stll there, Steven, I don't see the version declaration in the 17 May draft

OK. Did you add that, or was that a action for me?

I can add it

<norm> It was issue 78 which we agreed to last week, I thought you already had that acttion.

ACTION: Steven to add version declaration

<norm> (Last week or the week before, the text and grammar changes are in the pull request so it should be easy.)

<norm> Fab. Thank you.

Summary of action items

  1. Steven to revert wording to attribute
  2. Steven to add wording forbidding xmlns
  3. Steven to insert Michael's ambiguity text
  4. Steven to contact Prague.
  5. Steven to add version declaration
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