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14:21:49 <Steven> Meeting ixml Group Teleconference
14:22:03 <Steven> Date: 17 May 2022
14:22:09 <Steven> Chair: Steven
14:24:05 <Steven> Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2022/05/10-ixml-minutes
14:24:53 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022May/0025
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14:28:57 <Steven> Present: Steven, Norm, John
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14:29:14 <Steven> Regrets: Tomos
14:30:43 <Steven> Present+Bethan
14:30:57 <Steven> Present+Michael
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14:31:50 <Steven> Topic: Action items
14:32:09 <Steven> Norm: JWL did the actions, and the fizxes have been pushed
14:32:18 <Steven> s/fiz/fix/
14:32:48 <Steven> Topic:  Status reports
14:33:12 <Steven> Norm: My GLL implementation is partially working.
14:33:24 <Steven> John: I am passing all the tests, plus insertions.
14:34:01 <Steven> Steven: I thought there was a test with comments everywhere.
14:34:04 <Steven> John: No.
14:34:35 <Steven> Norm: Does sound familiar.
14:34:57 <Steven> John: Insertions have been interesting.
14:35:22 <Steven> Steven: Testing?
14:35:37 <Steven> Norm: I've committed tests with newlines fixed
14:35:57 <Steven> John: Newline handling -- some tests it adds more ambiguity
14:36:23 <Steven> Norm: THat's a bug. Please let me know so I can fix it.
14:36:28 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:37:14 <Steven> Topic: Issues
14:37:21 <Steven> Steven: Working from https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022May/0027
14:38:15 <Steven> Steven: I am fighting with git.
14:38:21 <Steven> Norm: I will commit it.
14:38:28 <Steven> Steven: It's on my staging site.
14:39:39 <Steven> Norm: I want to go back to calling it "attribute" not unstructured.
14:39:55 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to revert wording to attribute
14:40:29 <Steven> Norm: Forbidding xmlns as an attribute
14:40:42 <Steven> Michael: we don;t need to
14:40:46 <Steven> s/;/'/
14:41:02 <Steven> Norm: It would be clearer if we were explicit
14:41:22 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to add wording forbidding xmlns
14:41:42 <Steven> Norm: Issue 26, ambiguity
14:42:24 <Steven> Michael: I'm sorry to raise this. The current wording troubles me.
14:42:36 <Steven> ... the point is that conforming processors are allowed to behave differently
14:42:43 <Steven> ... also the current wording is not true
14:43:33 <Steven> ... none of the algorithms we mention defuine ambiguity.
14:43:39 <Steven> s/uine/ine/
14:43:56 <Steven> s/raise/reraise/
14:44:43 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to insert Michael's ambiguity text
14:45:11 <norm> https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/26
14:46:06 <Steven> .... last comment on that thread
14:46:58 <Steven> John: What is the meaning of ambiguity
14:47:25 <Steven> Michael: We don't define that. There is a gap between the standard definition, and our spec.
14:48:10 <Steven> ... if a rule produces empty in two different ways, is a matter of how you produce the parse tree.
14:50:38 <Steven> 77 174 255 237
14:51:02 <Steven> Norm: I think we are closed for 1.0 spec, and sign off next week in time for Prague.
14:51:07 <Steven> Michael: Great!
14:51:56 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
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14:52:06 <Steven> Topics: AOB
14:52:21 <Steven> Michael: How do we make the best possible splash?
14:52:48 <Steven> Bethan: Mascots!
14:53:54 <Steven> Steven: And XML made of glass.
14:54:04 <Steven> Bethan: A ghost animal?
14:55:38 <Steven> Norm: We need a slot on the program.
14:55:47 <Steven> ACTION: Contact Prague
14:55:58 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to contact Prague.
14:56:30 <Steven> Steven: We need a resources pointer -- where to get implementations, example grammars
14:57:20 <Steven> Steven: I am giving the ixml tutorial at Prague
14:57:30 <Steven> Bethan: Cheshire cat
14:57:35 <Steven> ... npot in copyright
14:57:40 <Steven> s/pot/ot/
14:58:19 <Steven> Norm: We plan to do a session at Balisage. We should do that. It's all virtual
14:59:36 <Steven> ... we need to work on what we want to do for pubs and PR for Prague and Balisage
15:00:53 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
15:01:09 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
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15:01:58 <Steven> s/Meeting ixml/Meeting: ixml/
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15:02:22 <Steven> f/fixx/fix/
15:03:08 <Steven> s/77 174 255 237//
15:03:24 <Steven> s/Topics:/Topic:/
15:03:37 <Steven> s/And XML/An XML/
15:03:59 <Steven> s/ACTION: Contact Prague//
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15:04:56 <Steven> s/fixx/fix/
15:05:02 <norm> If you're stll there, Steven, I don't see the version declaration in the 17 May draft
15:05:10 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
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15:05:39 <Steven> OK. Did you add that, or was that a action for me?
15:05:42 <Steven> I can add it
15:05:58 <norm> It was issue 78 which we agreed to last week, I thought you already had that acttion.
15:06:03 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to add version declaration
15:06:21 <norm> (Last week or the week before, the text and grammar changes are in the pull request so it should be easy.)
15:06:37 <norm> Fab. Thank you.
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15:07:21 <Steven> s/fixx/fix/
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