W3C

– DRAFT –
Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

06 April 2022

Attendees

Present
jasonjgw, Lionel_Wolberger, SteveNoble
Regrets
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Chair
jasonjgw
Scribe
SteveNoble

Meeting minutes

<Lionel_Wolberger> agenda, order 1 3 2 4 5 6

Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements: publication process. -- taken up

<jasonjgw> https://w3c.github.io/saur/

janina: Will send SAUR announcement language to Jason for a last check

janina: Will go for an April 15 publication data

Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA.

jasonjgw: A lot of background work has been done

jasonjgw: May want to spilt discussion between legacy issues and new issues

janina: Agree...calling all the old stuff as legacy

janina: Perhaps delete the old conclusions and leave room for new conclusions at a later point

Lionel_Wolberger: That sounds good

Lionel_Wolberger: Update...CloudFare solution, waiting on them for additional input

<Lionel_Wolberger> Reachout to Webauthn: we started with Manu. Next step will be to meet with Manu.

<Lionel_Wolberger> DID - digital identifer

<Lionel_Wolberger> VC - verifiable credential

<Lionel_Wolberger> CCG - credential community group

<Lionel_Wolberger> Non-profit in-person vetting with single-use tokens (150K+ locations, 200M user base) using DID+VC in a (not-very-A11Y) wallet: Manu provide link please.

<Lionel_Wolberger> VC WG "Guidance to enhance Verifiable Credential interoperability --Verifiable Credential Extension Vocabularies"... Manu tell us how this more about how this fits in.

<Lionel_Wolberger> CCG and/or VC WG, socialize our goal to shift the reverse Turing test burden to the user agent and away from the content publishing side. Might pick up some more people interested in helping/implementing.

jasonjgw: Further comments??

Lionel_Wolberger: Will reach out to Manu on next steps

jasonjgw: anything further on this?

Accessibility of Remote Meetings.

Are we ready to publish?

<Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel thanks the committee and quietly leaves

jasonjgw: Scott is not on call

jasonjgw: Real-time shared editing of documents in the context of a remote meeting is a consideration

janina: Yes

jasonjgw: This may be something we need to discuss

jasonjgw: Perhaps include an editors note on this

jasonjgw: Or should we say more?

janina: There may be a lot to say from the context of different disabilities, where the RTC is involved in document editing

jasonjgw: Collaborative coding might be another

janina: Not so much the accessibility of the editing environment itself, but more on the integration in meetings

janina: Perhaps saying this is an area where much is not known

jasonjgw: Most what exists so far is around the screen-reader user

jasonjgw: But many more use cases exist

jasonjgw: This was raised in email, but no further

jasonjgw: What about including an editors note on this?

jasonjgw: Then decide on publication next week?

janina: The editors note may need to suggest that this topic may need a fuller discussion in another product

jasonjgw: The issue of integrateing RTC with real-time editing creates a lot of cognitive issues. This is something we may want to say in this document

janina: That sounds right

janina: Slow and unreliable internet connectivity impacts this for many people

Review of draft ethical machine learning consultation document.

Have seen problematic issues when several are editing a live document in a meeting where some use an app version and other use a web interfact - different behaviors have been noted

jasonjgw: Janina and I attended this session

jasonjgw: The intended audience of the document was not clear

jasonjgw: The elicited comments from workshop participants

jasonjgw: These comments are being compiled

jasonjgw: There working draft is on github

https://webmachinelearning.github.io/ethical-webmachinelearning/

janina: There seemed to be more stress placed on local machine solution vs cloud

jasonjgw: The technology being developed is an API for running machine learning inference on the user device

jasonjgw: It is not clear how efficient this could run on a local device (large memory and processing requirements)

jasonjgw: But training the machine learning will still need to be remote

jasonjgw: To train machine learning would mean exposing personal information

janina: Example of getting interactive map applications to not download images could pose release of disability inferance

jasonjgw: Problem when preference settings in these tools get exposed in the cloud

janina: Problems of policy decisions being left to corporate actors

jasonjgw: So far not much in regulations exist

jasonjgw: We may need to look at research ethics practices which could be applied to this discussion (bioethics?)

jasonjgw: Plans of the group is to synthesize the results of the workshop discussions

jasonjgw: Likely they will update their draft accordingly

janina: Will want to pull in Jutta Treviranus on this

jasonjgw: Will watch for updates from the workshop folks

Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements.

jasonjgw: Nothing to report at this point

Miscellaneous topics.

jasonjgw: Nothing really to bring up

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 185 (Thu Dec 2 18:51:55 2021 UTC).

Diagnostics

Maybe present: janina