W3C

– DRAFT –
ARIA-APG

08 March 2022

Attendees

Present
Alexander, bryan, howard-e, jongunderson, Matt_King, sarah_higley, seth, siri
Regrets
Mark
Chair
Jemma
Scribe
jamesn

Meeting minutes

<Jem> rragent, make log public

<Jem> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/March-8%2C-2022-Agenda

Setup and Review Agenda

future meetings

propose cancelling next week due to CSUN and axe-con

issue triage

RESOLUTION: no meeting next week (Mar 15)

<Jem> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2021-10-01+no%3Alabel+

https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2060

<Jem> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2060

Matt_King: This is a webkit issue with aria-activedescendant

Matt_King: we should just say that

<Jem> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2060

Matt_King: is there a WPT test for the name calculation algorithm for comboboxes?

jamesn: I don't know

jamesn: I would need to check

ACTION: sarah_higley to check if there is a gecko bug

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https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167671

<howard-e> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=231724

(discussion about webkit bugs)

Matt_King: Gecko bug needs to be filed is if one is not already

<Jem> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2050

Matt_King: sounds editorial

Matt_King: misinterpreting the text

Open Pull Requests

<Jem> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2194

<Jem> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2194#issuecomment-1055785791

<Jem> james' comment

sarah_higley: This may be a browser bug

Matt_King: should not block the PR on this

all agreed

siri: would suggest this should not block the PR

Matt_King: not going to add to the documentation on this page

jamesn: suggest filing a new issue even if it is a chromium bug

jongunderson: original example was using buttons

jongunderson: likely that there is an artifact of the tabs being buttons... not sure we consider that a best practice or not

Matt_King: if using a non aria supporting browser would get fallback to buttons

Matt_King: in practice not sure how much of an issue that is

Matt_King: if had a website with older versions of TB on android it might be relevant

Matt_King: used to talk a lot about using the closest HTML

jongunderson: generally shy away from button unless closely related as have to undo a lot of stuff... tend to get unintended artifcacts

jongunderson: could be something to think about

Matt_King: thought what we were doing was accepted best practice

Matt_King: anyone have a viewpoint on this

sarah_higley: buttons have a different text selection behaviour - less selecty with static text

sarah_higley: if don't use a button then get some selection behaviour that is unintended

Matt_King: 4 years ago there was a lot of talk in best practice about this. Doesn't feel enough of an issue to write anything about but the fact we are using buttons may demonstrate that we should do that

ACTION: jongunderson to file an issue about the high contrast border issue

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APG Site Redesign Update

APG Site Redesign Update

seth: What to epxect in the content side

alex: do we want to put this HTML file into the root of the APG repo or do we want to consider any other options
… I think we are pretty flexible

Matt_King: since it is the Home page and the default page - it feels to me like an index.html in the root directory

alex: sounds good to me

seth: sounds good to me too
… try it out with a sibling file in the root
… next step will be a PR to add the home page file

Matt_King: did you talk about for the resources segment there would be some sort of construct

<siri> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57685 for user select issue

alex: right now not dynamic just a document

<Jem> http://wai-aria-practices.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/

alex: built into the architecture... the links will point to the redesign links

Matt_King: right now building all those redesign links by parsing the giant file

Matt_King: 2 weeks from today have this new page and the netlify site being generated

Matt_King: going to be talking to E&O

Matt_King: where APG will live

jongunderson: is jump to in there?

Matt_King: on the preview site.

seth: will need someone to merge the PR

File Directory Treeview Design Update

Issue #1817

sarah_higley: how soon do you want this to happen

Matt_King: on your timetable

Matt_King: at this point current focus is getting current content out there

Matt_King: at some point we will break the ability to push to our current editors draft

Matt_King: but doesn't need to affect timing

Matt_King: do we need time to discuss design goals

sarah_higley: set agenda time

sarah_higley: have an idea what it would look like

Summary of action items

  1. sarah_higley to check if there is a gecko bug
  2. jongunderson to file an issue about the high contrast border issue

Summary of resolutions

  1. no meeting next week (Mar 15)
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 185 (Thu Dec 2 18:51:55 2021 UTC).

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