W3C

– DRAFT –
WoT Plugfest/Testing

09 February 2022

Attendees

Present
Cristiano_Aguzzi, David_Ezell, Ege_Korkan, Fady_Salama, Jack_Dickinson, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
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Chair
Fady
Scribe
cris_, kaz

Meeting minutes

Minutes

Fady: we discussed a possible test suite for discovery

McCool: we still need to finalize it

Fady: minutes ok?

Pull Requests

PR 207

<kaz> PR 207 - update date of next Testfest/Plugfest to 03.2022

Fady: minor PR just updated the directories and file names to be ready for the next plug fest

McCool: we should discuss the follow up pf
… in particular about having it in person or virtual
… and thinking about the schedule
… we have PR transition in November and a CR transition is due to end of August

<McCool> wot PR 1012 - Update Plan due to delay in Discovery, TD 1.1, CR/PR typo

McCool: for mid-april we need an implementation report draft
… for profile we need an implementation report draft for end of August
… tpac is scheduled for 12-16 September
… having an in person PF the week before or the week after
… another option might be having a PF in July which was the original plan

Fady: yes

McCool: since we have a TPAC in September we could have a third PF

Ege: generally I like having a PF in TPAC
… if TPAC is physical I would vote for having one
… but I would split PF and TestFest

Lagally: I have different opinion, you can optimize time

Ege: I'm afraid that we'll lose focus on the implementation Report

McCool: right, the current plan is to have them mixed now but different sync meetings
… doing the same thing for mid july make sense
… all the testing should be done before September

Lagally: if it is a physical event it make sense to build demos

McCool: I agree but demos are separate activities
… my plan is to add TPAC on the calendar, about PF will see

Kaz: From my viewpoint, what is more important is to understand who is going to take the lead for each event

Kaz: regardless of whether event is going to be physical or not, we need to clarify who to take the lead, how to organize the events, what kind of repository structure to be used, etc.

Tools

Fady: we already have a tool to merge CSV files
… and generate a final implementation report
… we also need tools for other specs like Discovery and Profile

Ege: we have something for Discoveryy
… probably one test report per discovery implementation
… farshid has his testing tool

McCool: yeah
… we need to test consumers
… we need two consumer implementations

Ege: why merge? just counting

McCool: not may assertions on the consumer side

Cristiano: how can we test introductions?

McCool: just the one that have assertions

Ege: I have a discovery consumer

Cristiano: webthings has an implementation for mDNS too

McCool: we should get organized
… also about ThingModels and testing tools

Fady: I'm working on it
… I'm more concerned about other tools

Cristiano: Is it the thing model process normative?

McCool: not sure
… also do we have two implementations

Fady: if I understand correctly we already have two implementations

McCool: yeah we have to processors
… but we also need to have a set of thing models (i.e. examples)
… from two organizations

Cristiano: we had some thing models
… but we didn't cover all the features for sure

Ege: TUM published Thing Models too
… but as partial TDs

McCool: which is the timeline for having the assertion testing tool?

Fady: two weeks from now

McCool: then I'll open an issue for having discovery too

McCool: what about logistics? WebEx?

Kaz: we can use zoom as well

McCool: I have no strong preference, but if I have to choose webex would be preferred

Ege: we can't install zoom client as Siemens

McCool: Intel uses Teams

McCool: test fest would be only for wg
… so we don't have particular requirements

Kaz: we can allocate a dedicated WebEx call and share the link to all the invited guests ( for the plug fest)

Cristiano: I think we have to think about what we have to do
… if we have particular requirements that webex can't do

Kaz: from my viewpoint, there's no particular difference

McCool: let's keep it simple
… and use webex

Kaz: ok I can allocate WebEx calls based on the currently proposed schedule

Fady: no complaints about the schedule

Fady: adjourned

<kaz> [adjourned]

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 185 (Thu Dec 2 18:51:55 2021 UTC).