Meeting minutes
Methods
Francis: ATs have the ability when markup is wrong. Tihs is not clear
Wilco: Several reasons for ATs to pronounce language correctly
… Could be automatically detected based on programmatic label
… An example is 'lang="french"'
… Some can guess based on "lang" attribute value
… Also Japanese characters may get automatically pronounced as Japanese
Francis: So this 'lang="french"' example would be fixed by some SRs
Wilco: From the perspective that "We care about the outcomes, not how you get there" that would be correct
… Seems like an accessibility support question
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Daniel: Are we inferring that SRs should should guess the language even if authors are not using the correct values
Wilco: Yes, this is an unofficial standard
Wilco: I think this is how WCAG3 needs to be, focusing more on the outcome
Wilco: Latin is still an exception.
Francis: Voice is not available example
Daniel: It's not just about voice. It is about braille table changes as well
Wilco: We need to think of language for which there might not be a voice available
… Old English
Francis: Will put these in the exceptions
Wilco: Also there is a bunch of Indian languages, not sure there is a speech synthesizer for each of them
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Wilco: Another exception would be when there is no voice
… But still it would need to be pronounced somehow
Francis: Or maybe based on what's the nearest supported language
… or fall back to page language, OS language, or user preference
Wilco: Sure that's an exception. There needs to be a fall back requirement
Francis: Probably native language of the speaker
Wilco: We may want to put this in our exceptions
Daniel: Agree
Wilco: Not sure the default language page will work
Wilco: User's language choice may work. WE could go further than that. We could require that they use a language in the same language family
Francis: That's a lot of work for AT
Wilco: Maybe just leave it to whatever the default is
Francis: AT can do, but browser prevents it
… Not an exception
Daniel: Browser / os may default to English when there is no language declaration. IF you work in English that's less of an issue, if you work in other languages that might be a problem
Wilco: Content provider cannot fix these issues
Wilco: Maybe we need to step back a bit on the second exception. Using the default pronounciation
Wilco: Let's record the braille case. We are talking only about pronunciation up to now.