Meeting minutes
Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA.
JW: To be deferred till Scott gets back
JW: Public working draft published
We have comments by John Rochford related to honeypots
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JW: John also referred to new SC in WCAG 2.2 on accessible authentication
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JW: I've responded
JW: Final point is around conversations on what our conclusions should be in revised CAPTCHA note
We should continue via email when Scott is available
Did I miss anything
JS: You didn't miss anything, but I suggest you merge your changes on the honey pots - and that we do not point to the new SC, as WCAG 2.2 is not yet a CR.
I'm surprised how we did not address the automated part of CAPTCHA.
We use the term interactive 5 times, before we mention automation
We need to rectify that.
JS: Our goal is to kill CAPTCHA
We have a basis, a la Cloudflare implementation etc - to move the burden of authentication off the user etc
<Riffs on surprise a la missing automation>
JW: Reflects on original paper on CAPTCHA proposal
JS: Would like to find that - we need to address this.
JS: Janina has proposed shifting the burden of responsibility etc
Multiple mechanisms to prove humanity would be a good thing
JW: We can pick this up on next week
<jasonjgw> Josh: we should note the "completely automated" point but not emphasize it too much.
JW: It will be interesting to look back at the original paper and concept
JW: I'll merge changes on the honeypot section
JS: Would like to get John Rochford involved in discussion here.
JW: Will continue dialog via email.
Final thoughts?
JW: Congrats to all
Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements.
JW: Steve had proposed some changes and is still working on that. Any update?
SN: We are down to just five issues in GH
SN: This is the most substantial issue IMO SAUR Subtitle/Caption synchronisation #248
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I need to word smith on this section - Nigel is away at the mo, and I want to run a new version by him to address his concerns.
Most of the other issues are pretty minor and can be closed
SN: This can be closed https://
Claims about ASR accuracy #229
SN: This can also be closed Are there synchronization-related needs specific to XR/immersive environments that should be addressed? #211
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JW: We haven't gotten any comments on this yet.
JS: Do we know if the Immersive Captions group is aware of this?
JOC: I can ping the list and ask them.
JS: ok
JS: We want Nigel to be happy with this doc
SN: Indeed
JW: The only other issue is if we want summary, or conclusions with advice for implementors
We can address this before next draft
JW: Lets revisit
SN: In two weeks would be good
JW: Other suggestions?
SN: What about the biblio?
JW: Done now, Josh did a lot of work on it
I've also added
If Steve can review?
JW: I can merge it, will make it easier to review
Small editorial changes needed
JW: Anyone object to me merging?
SN: What formats are used in W3C?
JW: They use that format used for citing specs, and isn't a proper Bibliography format.
JW: We should see another draft, then that will be it before transition to publication
JS: I think we will get to this before some other docs, should we ask Timed Text if they would like to publish this jointly.
Also if it is valuable enough to be a W3C statement?
JW: Agreed.
JS: Hopefully ready by Feb
Accessibility of remote Meetings.
JW: I suggest we wait till Scott is back
He does want to respond to open issues
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JS: I'm making sure we are addressing COGA comments
JW: We got good comments at TPAC, and need to work on these, discuss details etc
JS: We will need to meet with COGA
JW: Also a la Natural Language Interfaces
JW: FInal comments?
Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements.
JW: We have a list of COGA comments
and issue of the new paper that we discussed on Chatbot a11y etc
NAUR issues https://
We will all chip in
<Zakim> Joshue, you wanted to talk about publishing schedule
JOC: I'll walk through the issues on NAUR and report back on what would be a good timeline.
<jasonjgw> Josh will review the issues, including COGA TF comments and report back next week.
JW: We can make a clearer projection of timelines etc after Joshs review
JS: final thoughts?
Miscellaneous topics.
JS: I'm not sure Steve knows, but we have a new co-chair in APA.
Becky has stepped down and W3C have nominated Matthew Tylee Atkinson
JS: I'm very happy
JS: Becky will continue to be involved
JS: Good news
JW: Not much more from me.