Meeting minutes
Previous minutes
McCool: Correction: Farshid works on EdgeX and not for
Kaz: fixed
McCool: Minutes approved
Quick updates
Editors' sync-up call on Tuesday
Lagally: talked about scripting and use-cases
… proposal to call them "Developer use cases"
McCool: use-cases are quite broad
… "Developer examples" ?
Lagally: rather "Deployment"
… w.r.t. Profile
… see PDF
… Dave is one of the authors
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Lagally: talks about interoperability
… currently profile looks at technical interoperability
Kaz: /* back to use-cases, will talk with PLH */
OPC-UA
Sebastian: We had meeting with Jeff 2-3 weeks ago
… talked about ideas how we can work together
… Jeff was okay with that
… IF we want to have more impact... we should work on a stronger partnership
… I think currently the liaison statement seems enough to me
… IF there is more interest, we can think about new partnership
Kaz: I agree with the reasoning
… we should start with basic discussion
… can also involve OPC-UA people in PlugFest
McCool: At this point we should do our homework
Lagally: industrial use-cases are important
… joint action-plan/vision would be desirable
… should work on requirements and a plan
McCool: We can do it informally
… should do it more structurally
… develop drafts
… joint standard is a next step
Lagally: We need 2 documents
… 1 on OPC side and 1 one our side
McCool: We need to look at the scope also
<mlagally_> ... these documents need to be synchronized, coordinated
Sebastian: Agree with structured overview proposal
… should do that together with OPC-UA
… I will ping OPC again
… show our ideas
… maybe in a joint meeting
McCool: +1
<mlagally_> ml: +1
Kaz: Yes, let's go in this direction
Sebastian: Okay, will do that the next weeks
Updates on the possible new Architecture call slot?
McCool: Conclusion on timeslots?
Lagally: Need to check Doodle
… will look at it in tomorrows Arch call
McCool: Note: we are thinking about 2 slots
WoT Japanese CG updates
Mizushima: The agenda for Kick-off meeting has been decided
… each task force (translation and use-case/outreach/deployment) will be discussed
<kaz> announcement on ML
Kaz: Mizushima-San has sent out email about it
Smart Cities updates
Kaz: will talk to stakeholders in various countries
W3C notes
Daniel: notes are not allowed to have normative statements or conformance section
McCool: Yes, Binding is somewhat in the same situation
… Scripting is special, since we might turn Scripting into REC
Kaz: W3C can have conformance section
… note itself is non-normative
… suggest to remove conformance section
McCool: Need conformance section
… special version
Kaz: several notes which have conformance section usually state they are non-normative
… will talk to PLH
Daniel: 2 points
… 1. non-normative API does not make sense
… 2. Other notes like DID have normative statements also
Lagally: Situation is confusing
… getting rid of MUST etc
Kaz: IF we want to have normative statements, we need to be on REC track
McCool: Should handle it in next charter
Lagally: We have charter
… I would be very concerned if we try to move WG notes to the REC track at the end of the current charter period
McCool: We are talking about "next" charter
Rechartering and Charter Extensions
IG Rechartering
McCool: W3M approved charter
… need 3 months to accommodate the AC Review procedure.
… need announcement soon
… today we send out call for review
WG Charter Extension
McCool: similar problem
… expires end of January
… AC review takes 6 weeks due to holiday
… we *might* have a gap
… Question: 1 announcement or 2 ?
… tight timing
McCool: W3M meet today
… please ping AC reps to approve charters
Lagally: draft extension, what do you mean?
McCool: Yes, this is just the extension
Lagally: Same charter with changed dates?
McCool: Correct, a modification only
… new charter will cover *new* deliverables
… at the moment we collect ideas
Lagally: new charter in Sep 2022?
McCool: Plan for July/August
Kaz: Next charter for 2.0 in August ... we need to finalize charter in April/May *IF* we really want to start our next charter period around July.
McCool: Okay, let's revisit this topic
Discuss decision process
McCool: We need to discuss it in more depth
… once we have more bandwidth
Publications
McCool: Call for Resolution to publish updated WoT Use Cases and Requirements?
Lagally: Yes, we agreed on publication candidate yesterday
… please have a look
McCool: 2 week announcement?
… because of Christmas.. we might do it in January
Lagally: one more use-case call next week
Marketing
WoT CG
McCool: CG is not up-to-date anymore
… need a *new* chair, since Dave is stuff member
… CG useful for OpenDay and public announcement
McCool: Ege volunteered to be CG chair
… need 5 nominations from organization
Lagally: Propose call for chair
McCool: Okay, let's do that
… maybe 2 chairs are even better
… Decision: early next year
… please volunteer
Ege: Fine by me
Wiki page improvements
McCool: will do some wiki clean-up
Testing
McCool: will discuss this the next hour
McCool: TD call today?
Ege: Yes, I will chair
Liaisons
ITU-T SG20
McCool: Joint call now set for Feb 3 at 09:00 EDT / 15:00 CET, for 2h
https://
McCool: speakers from W3C WoT (proposing 60m total, McCool (15m), Kaz (15m), Sebastian (30m) to present)
<kaz> [main call adjourned; Plugfest call starts in 10 mins]