<dmontalvo> https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/WAI_Curricula/WAI_Curricula_Task_Force_Meetings#Scribe_Rotation_List
<scribe> Scribe: Brent
<dmontalvo> https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/437/#issuecomment-992255940
Daniel: People in general agree
that there needs to be some words of warning when talking about
providing examples of flashing / blinking content. Not just for
students but for instructors as well.
... Added in areas so that it is not just warning around
flashing.
... Updated content to provide more information around red
flash and flashing thresholds.
... Wondering if everyone on call is comfortable with the
scope?
Dave: I like the addition. To
strengthen, advise instructor to "let people know" that you are
about to show flashing/blinking content.
... Additionally, do not make exposure to this type of learning
activity always optional. Make the activity optional.
... Also can we call out the warning a little better. Using
"Note" and/or some kind of visual icon to call attention to the
warning.
Daniel: Can try and use a standard approach. Maybe using the "important" indication that has been used in the past.
Carlos: Agree with Dave. Maybe we need to even go beyond with the warning/note. Maybe style the paragraph differently so that it stands out more.
Daniel: Maybe "caution".
+1 to Dave and Carlos comments.
<GN> +1 to Dave and Carlos comments
Daniel: Will work to implement
these recommendations.
... Are people okay with us putting this teaching topic as
optional?
Dave: Better to put the warning at the beginning of the Teaching Ideas. Rather than repeating for each idea that needs a warning.
Sarah: Need to emphasize that this is and essential warning to the instructor, rather than relying on students to tell the teacher. Make sure the instructor knows that they must give the warning.
Daniel: What is the best way to word this. Example, "Show examples only when you have warned the students about the risk."
<sloandr> Example of text to introduce the Teaching ideas: "All of the following teaching examples should be used only with prior warning that they include flickering, flashing or animated content, and when students understand the risks of engaging with the examples. They should be optional for learners.
Sarah: Instructors often do not
receive any information about students disabilities, so the
instructor should be sure that a sufficient warning is
given.
... Give a warning and ensure students understand the risk
before proceeding with teaching using examples of
flashing/blinking.
Daniel: Agree that we need to
word this in a way where we are not guiding the instructor to
ask students to disclose publicly a disability.
... Location. Put the warning above the bullets above the
bullets for the Teaching Ideas for Topic.
Carlos: Just to understand suggestion, can you clarify.
Daniel: First warning in the introduction, next warning after "Teaching Ideas for Topic - Optional ideas to teach the learning outcomes"
Carlos: Maybe have it as the first bullet?
Daniel: To summarize, current wording is not enough. Will work on language that is more strong and add in two locations in the page.
Brent: Wouldn't put it as the first bullet. Should be a warning about the teaching idea bullets (that follow).
Daniel: Good, I will work on implementing these suggestions.
<dmontalvo> https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/419#issuecomment-992328427
Daniel: Several comments about
sign language in teaching ideas.
... In the preview added the diversity of sign languages
depending on region and country. Changed "understand written
language well" to "use written language as their second
language" to avoid judgment. Clarified that some deaf people
do not use sign language.
... How do you feel about these updates.
Sarah: Looks stronger. A lot of important detail has been added.
Daniel: Similarly, Should more detail be added to the surrounding teaching ideas as well, or are they okay?
Dave: This seems appropriate, this communicates factors that are culturally important that designers need to be aware of.
Daniel: Hearing that it is okay
to have this a little more detailed for sign language than the
others.
... If you have any other suggestions please add more detail in
GitHub or send email to me.
<dmontalvo> https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/435#issuecomment-992376615
Daniel: We discussed this some last week. Decided to use terminology "non-standard."
Daniel: The example of buttons and links was agreed that it could be unclear as an example. So changed the example to "using read-only edit boxes when expecting text input.) What do people think about this example use instead.
Dave: Straight forward to me.
Sarah: More clear.
Gerhard: more clear to me too.
Dave: Wonder if the example should be in the Topic intro paragraph where it is first brought up (in the Explain... sentence), rather then have this example down in the learning outcome.
Daniel: Good idea. I think it could work there. I will rework it into the Topic intro paragraph.
Daniel: [sharing screen] - The
word "define" is used as a starting word through many of the
learning outcomes. We use it for many purposes as well, for
example, communicate, explain, develop.
... Working to change this up to be more clear. In some
outcomes I have changed define to "create" or "design."
... These are just some examples. Thinking about doing this
throughout the entire curricula.
Dave: Wonder if using one term, like "create", to much would lose the uniqueness of the outcome. Hard for the instructor looking at these to know what the difference is between them.
Some examples of Learning outcome starting words...
Recall
Explain
Interpret
Compare
Differentiate
Implement
Judge
Create
Daniel: Will work on this
proposal and examples and have it prepared for our next meeting
in January for further discussion.
... Thank you all for contributions and feedback.
... Happy Christmas. Talk to you all in January.