W3C

WAI Curricula Task Force Teleconference

14 Dec 2021

Attendees

Present
sloandr, GN, brent, CarlosD, Sarah
Regrets
Howard
Chair
Daniel
Scribe
Brent

Contents


Setting up meeting, choosing scribe

<dmontalvo> https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/WAI_Curricula/WAI_Curricula_Task_Force_Meetings#Scribe_Rotation_List

<scribe> Scribe: Brent

Proposal on reducing risks when showing flashing content

<dmontalvo> https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/437/#issuecomment-992255940

Daniel: People in general agree that there needs to be some words of warning when talking about providing examples of flashing / blinking content. Not just for students but for instructors as well.
... Added in areas so that it is not just warning around flashing.
... Updated content to provide more information around red flash and flashing thresholds.
... Wondering if everyone on call is comfortable with the scope?

Dave: I like the addition. To strengthen, advise instructor to "let people know" that you are about to show flashing/blinking content.
... Additionally, do not make exposure to this type of learning activity always optional. Make the activity optional.
... Also can we call out the warning a little better. Using "Note" and/or some kind of visual icon to call attention to the warning.

Daniel: Can try and use a standard approach. Maybe using the "important" indication that has been used in the past.

Carlos: Agree with Dave. Maybe we need to even go beyond with the warning/note. Maybe style the paragraph differently so that it stands out more.

Daniel: Maybe "caution".

+1 to Dave and Carlos comments.

<GN> +1 to Dave and Carlos comments

Daniel: Will work to implement these recommendations.
... Are people okay with us putting this teaching topic as optional?

Dave: Better to put the warning at the beginning of the Teaching Ideas. Rather than repeating for each idea that needs a warning.

Sarah: Need to emphasize that this is and essential warning to the instructor, rather than relying on students to tell the teacher. Make sure the instructor knows that they must give the warning.

Daniel: What is the best way to word this. Example, "Show examples only when you have warned the students about the risk."

<sloandr> Example of text to introduce the Teaching ideas: "All of the following teaching examples should be used only with prior warning that they include flickering, flashing or animated content, and when students understand the risks of engaging with the examples. They should be optional for learners.

Sarah: Instructors often do not receive any information about students disabilities, so the instructor should be sure that a sufficient warning is given.
... Give a warning and ensure students understand the risk before proceeding with teaching using examples of flashing/blinking.

Daniel: Agree that we need to word this in a way where we are not guiding the instructor to ask students to disclose publicly a disability.
... Location. Put the warning above the bullets above the bullets for the Teaching Ideas for Topic.

Carlos: Just to understand suggestion, can you clarify.

Daniel: First warning in the introduction, next warning after "Teaching Ideas for Topic - Optional ideas to teach the learning outcomes"

Carlos: Maybe have it as the first bullet?

Daniel: To summarize, current wording is not enough. Will work on language that is more strong and add in two locations in the page.

Brent: Wouldn't put it as the first bullet. Should be a warning about the teaching idea bullets (that follow).

Daniel: Good, I will work on implementing these suggestions.

Clarified scope for sign language

<dmontalvo> https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/419#issuecomment-992328427

Daniel: Several comments about sign language in teaching ideas.
... In the preview added the diversity of sign languages depending on region and country. Changed "understand written language well" to "use written language as their second language" to avoid judgment. Clarified that some deaf people do not use sign language.
... How do you feel about these updates.

<dmontalvo> https://deploy-preview-433--wai-curricula.netlify.app/curricula/designer-modules/multimedia-and-animations/#topic-alternatives-to-multimedia-content

Sarah: Looks stronger. A lot of important detail has been added.

Daniel: Similarly, Should more detail be added to the surrounding teaching ideas as well, or are they okay?

Dave: This seems appropriate, this communicates factors that are culturally important that designers need to be aware of.

Daniel: Hearing that it is okay to have this a little more detailed for sign language than the others.
... If you have any other suggestions please add more detail in GitHub or send email to me.

Standard versus non-standard uses of form elements

<dmontalvo> https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/435#issuecomment-992376615

Daniel: We discussed this some last week. Decided to use terminology "non-standard."

<dmontalvo> https://deploy-preview-433--wai-curricula.netlify.app/curricula/designer-modules/forms-design/#topic-form-elements

Daniel: The example of buttons and links was agreed that it could be unclear as an example. So changed the example to "using read-only edit boxes when expecting text input.) What do people think about this example use instead.

Dave: Straight forward to me.

Sarah: More clear.

Gerhard: more clear to me too.

Dave: Wonder if the example should be in the Topic intro paragraph where it is first brought up (in the Explain... sentence), rather then have this example down in the learning outcome.

Daniel: Good idea. I think it could work there. I will rework it into the Topic intro paragraph.

Use of the word "define"

Daniel: [sharing screen] - The word "define" is used as a starting word through many of the learning outcomes. We use it for many purposes as well, for example, communicate, explain, develop.
... Working to change this up to be more clear. In some outcomes I have changed define to "create" or "design."
... These are just some examples. Thinking about doing this throughout the entire curricula.

Dave: Wonder if using one term, like "create", to much would lose the uniqueness of the outcome. Hard for the instructor looking at these to know what the difference is between them.

Some examples of Learning outcome starting words...

Recall

Explain

Interpret

Compare

Differentiate

Implement

Judge

Create

Daniel: Will work on this proposal and examples and have it prepared for our next meeting in January for further discussion.
... Thank you all for contributions and feedback.
... Happy Christmas. Talk to you all in January.

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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