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Jo: published working draft ben?
ben: almost, waiting for W3C to come back
Action: ben to check he carried out the action from previous meeting
move on from IRC
Caspar: otterAI - autotranscription service - integrates with Zoom
ben: does it work live and can you edit afterwards?
caspar: think it's live
Action: Caspar to figure out a PoC of OtterAI
LinkedIn Group
MarkB: we want to announce the spec that we will publish
… we create a LinkedIn group
… which I already did
… we can then make a post and everyone can link to it in their own profiles
… does this seem like a good idea, should I send out invites?
… how do we agree the content of the announcement
… q1 linkedin gorup make sense?
Resolution: Thanks to Markb for setting up Linked in Group please proceed with invitations
mark: I'll invite everyone, if you don't get an invite then please let me know
Action: Mark to circulate copy by w3c group email list
Minutes of last meeting
Resolution: Accept minutes of last meeting
Musical Chairs
Jo: I will step down at the conclusion of the meeting
… michelle has kindly agreed to step forward, we need to agree her becoming chair
Resolution: Group agrees that Michelle will make a wonderful chair and thanks her for stepping forward
Resolution: Noting Jo stepping down as chair, Group thanks Jo for his efforts
WIFIC in one year
ben: just want to scoot through them all, and so set direction, rather than a detailed discussion of the issues
… Laura said we should target WIFIC in a year's time to do a major demo
… we could throw in a straw man to guide discussions
… FIs are building internal market places and automated rights management is a solution for some of the challenges they need to overcome
… so target is "Full end-to-end automation of rights over a cloud based internal market place"
… comments?
markB: this is someone where you are an internal employee, I browse the content, answer a questionnaire etc and get a yes/no
ben: yes, that's the kind of thing - want many different viewpoints on this as a solution, exchange, vendor etc...
markB: if it stops people using data they are not licensed for and helps them get a license, then any content producer would be in favour
… how would they contribute to that discussion
michelle: I can imagine this from the consumer perspective, less involved in cloud personally, people very interested in being able to query
… data sets may be broader than just an exchange contract
ben: should we start including things like alternative data?
michelle: think it all falls under the broader category of market data
markb: have heard people say ODRL is an exchange thing, so would be good to expand their minds
michelle: think we need to tackle the whole of market data
trisha: end to end entitlements for exchanges is good, think alternative data is a good way to go, but how would you define it?
ben: we have a year to define it
laura: what's key is to show the communication, demo the end to end process with all these stakeholders then that is a representative ecosystem
… showing how it work, but applicable across a lot of environments
jo: I recommend that taking on other areas would be taking on too much
… suggest that the group stick to getting what it has working
michelle: picking up on the use of the work permissioning, we can't enforce
ben: some parts of enforcement may be in scope in the next year
… there is a spectrum of people from completely compliant through to those that deliberately break the rules
… in the large area between we can enforce and automate the enforcement
… but we are not digital rights management, in that the compliance needs to be voluntary
laura: we need to be clear what we mean, when I hear entitlements I hear enforcement
… need to be clear about systematically enforcing the block
caspar: I think we can have both advisory and enforcement
laura: individual firm could decide which way they want to go with it
caspar: want ability to query data catalogue for example
jo: how is the question of whether extending into alternative data is a good idea or not
ben: should we do just one? just to show it can be done?
… FISD wrote guidance and templates for alternative data
… wonder if anyone has looked at that
… Marthe do you have any patterns in the licensing from vendors coming on to Amazon Data Exchange
Action: Marthe to report whether she has found any useful patterns by next meeting
Action: Ben to circulate - Laura and Michelle to look at FISD template
Action: Ben to reach out to Elizabeth Pritchard to see what adoption there is
Modelling Best Practices
Ben: e.g. payment - must have and may haves ...
… for each of the key duties, how to model these
… and explain to people how we model these duties
… also for example, derived data
jo: suggest use of "pattern"
… it is a pattern book
ben: include some validation code etc.
markb: have a break out session to work out where to store and do a pattern
… then everyone to go away and implement one
laura: parties using this would be providers and consumers
ben: also software implementors
caspar: there are some design patterns for ontologies, incredibly valuable
Action: Mark to organise a break out session to discuss - in 2 weeks from today
Reference Architecture
ben: there have been requests to describe the implementation of the standard in terms of e.g. policy store and so on
… instrumentation and enforcement too, what would the architecture look like
… need to make sure that interoperability is possible
Action: Caspar to write a note starting the discussion of what Reference Architecture means
Formalising ODRL and Temporal Model
ben: noting that the ODRL community group is addressing these topics, ppl should email me if they want to join those discussions
michelle: would it matter if they went off in a different direction
ben: yes, but we are influential. Academic discussions at the moment
AOB
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