W3C

Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

23 Sep 2021

Attendees

Present
KarenHerr, kathyeng, Daniel
Regrets
Trevor, Aron, Tod
Chair
Wilco
Scribe
kathy

Contents


<scribe> scribe: kathy

CFC Update CSS Styling input aspect

wilco: 1 positive response, no objections
... can accept as proposed

<Wilco> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/520

<Wilco> proposed RESOLUTION: Accepted PR 520 as is.

RESOLUTION: Accepted PR 520 as is.

ACT rules sheet

wilco: do we need to revisit rule sheet, unless update or change? anything need to be added?

karen: wilco and I discussed element with aria-hidden has no focusable content, where it would go in Understanding docs
... no aria rules for aria-hidden, suggested adding a rule to AGWG
... would be a best practice, need a change to template json files

<Wilco> https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/language-of-page.html

karen: Language of Page has Test Rules

wilco: asked AG chairs about keeping rules in 2.1
... we do not have advisory rules

daniel: as a separate section?

karen: maybe a subheading under test rules

daniel: sounds good

kathy: if there is an advisory technique makes sense to have advisory rule. if not on understanding page, advisory rules won't be found easily

wilco: or add links to advisory rules under Related Resources section
... or add "advisory" in link text under Test Rules

kathy: prefer advisory rules in Test Rules

wilco demonstrates "advisory" at end of link name

daniel: prefer "advisory" at end instead of beginning of link name

all agree to put the advisory links at the bottom of the Test Rules list

RESOLUTION: request AG to add advisory rules to Test Rules list

<Wilco> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/ACT_Task_Force_Meeting_Agenda

wilco: advisory don't map to WCAG, need to programmatic way to mark and which WCAG advisory

Update website migration

wilco: PR merged, broke site. Steve fixing.

daniel: table of contents takes up a lot of space, switch to expand/collapse solution

Open ACT pull requests

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pulls

wilco: Kathy opened #1716, add Karen as reviewer
... PR #1713, daniel will review
... #1711, add examples, add kathy as reviewer
... #1705 approved, will merge

Surveying proposed rules

wilco: added box for recording notes
... survey 5, want rule included as advisory on wai site,
... assigning wilco as liaison instead of karen
... survey 6, remove 1.3.1
... Q6: aron agrees with #1507
... cannot merge because aria-hidden maps to 4.1.2, element marked as decorative is not exposed does not map to anything
... role="none" with aria-label ignores role="none".
... aria doesn't say not to do this.
... correction, PR is about different rule
... focusable element without a node in acctree
... browsers handle presentational children differently

daniel: these are differently supported by AT

wilco: these are closely related but different enough. maybe link together in Background sections

daniel: linked rules before in background. ex: language rule

wilco: keep these rules separate

all agreed

wilco: Issue #1386
... need to be resolved
... daniel's comment

daniel: consistency mainly
... remove "work in progress" with a PR

wilco: rules needs some fixes as listed in notes on survey
... liaison assigned kathy

daniel: examples comments
... examples 3 and 6, are both needed

wilco: can remove ex 6

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

  1. Accepted PR 520 as is.
  2. request AG to add advisory rules to Test Rules list
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