W3C

– DRAFT –
ARIA and Assistive Technologies Community Grou

23 September 2021

Attendees

Present
Matt_King, Rich_Noah
Regrets
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Chair
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Scribe
jongund, Rich_Noah

Meeting minutes

Setup and Reset for Test Case

<Matt_King> James: Decided there will always be a setup button

<Matt_King> Z: If there is no script, should the button be on the page

<Matt_King> James: we could hide button if there is no script

<Matt_King> z: During test generation, we will make a copy of the reference example pages, one for each unique setup script.

<Matt_King> Rich: This sprint will wrap up full deployment of the new schema

<Matt_King> will be able to move to more agile approach after Oct 1, last day of this sprint

<AlyssaG> +present

Feedback from testers running tests

Matt_King: i saw an email from Alyssa Vo regarding feedback.

Matt_King: AlyssaG were you able to get any testing this week?

AlyssaG: yes, I did 6 and have a completed a total of 8.

Matt_King: do you have any feedback?

AlyssaG: one of the tests references from interactive and focus mode.

James: I wasn't aware we had reached a conclusion.

Matt_King: I thought we had reached a conclusion. We were going to have a terms listing somewhere, different than the working mode.

Matt_King: we are assuming a certain amount of knowledge but certain things can be confusing. Have you seen the raise an issue button AlyssaG?

AlyssaG: no I have not looked for it.

Matt_King: it is down at the bottom and gives you a form. Ass much feedback as possible. Thank you.

AlyssaG: I shall do that

Matt_King: Jongund you had raised some issues while testing. Your issue about radio buttons

jongund: It would be nice if we used the radio buttons for sighted users, no line breaks. Maybe some visual styling.

Matt_King: Issue 505 can be retitled and retagged.

James: I will do some work on this.

jongund: when you open the test you can't see the script window.

James: It is a comment on 502.

Z: this is in that ARIA-AT repo, there is a current call that specifies and size.

Matt_King: I believe we need a separate issue for this.

James: I will create this.

Z: we just need to specify the size or remove it.

Matt_King: is there anything else jongund?

Hadi: Sorry for joining late

Hadi: I think screen reader navigation and keyboard navigation should be separate.

Matt_King: we have not defined any assertions related to landmark regions yet.

jongund: I think there needs to be information on if they can ignore it or not.

Matt_King: we need to think about what we want the screen readers do but what we want the tests to tests

Priorities for next sprint

<jongund> MK: IN the last ten minutes, we can talk about the next ???, any other development of the app

MK: Previous meetings about the way we work

MK: We have been talking about our draft tests, what should or should not be in them

MK: Then we want to change the draft tests are ready for screen reader companies

MK: This process is working well for everybody, we identified some issues today

MK: We need to record browser and screen reader versions, and identified some accessibility issues

MK: We have a crisp list to burn down

MK: What are the things that are absolutely critical between now and the end of the year

MK: What priorties of the group members

MK: This is an opportunity for working group input to priorties

ST: We have received issues related to radio buttons, so it might a high priority

MK: That is a design one

ST: I would be happy to talk about the issues with the design team

ST: There are some additional issues for visual design

ST: Radio is first suggestion

ST: The difference between NEXT and SAVE, not sure we have an issue for that

MK: I thought you were suppose to raise an issue

RN: That was n the accessibility audit

MK: I think there needs to be consensus on a solution that can be implemented

MK: I welcome an issue, think it through, please provide a proposal and we can talk through the proposal

MK: We can then have the solution float to the top

MK: We need to talk about it soon for the ..

ST: Something like the radio buttons fits under dedicated time, and we don't have to carve out right now

MK: We will not be able to get all the fixes and the production issues

JS: Is that more important than screen reader and browse version issues

MK: The tests status is needed to make test available to screen reader developers, the SR and browser version is important too

ST: We are feeling pressure, can we use email today to figure out the radio button, we need to do it in the next week

MK: We will revisit this next week

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 136 (Thu May 27 13:50:24 2021 UTC).

Diagnostics

Maybe present: AlyssaG, Hadi, James, jongund, JS, MK, RN, ST, Z