W3C

WoT Security

06 September 2021

Attendees

Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Oliver_Pfaff, Philipp_Blum, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
-
Chair
McCool
Scribe
kaz

Meeting minutes

Minutes

Aug-30

McCool: minutes looks OK

Kaz: will just fix the style (because we forgot to specify the scribenick for citrullin)

Signatures

wot-thing-description PR 1151 - WIP: TD Signatures

McCool: (describes the summary)
… discussion on the relationship with XML Signature

Oliver's comments

McCool: would like to summarize the points maybe using a table
… a concern is what IETF is doing recently
… don't know people think what kind of strategy

Oliver: good summary
… 3 actions to do here
… 1. work on description
… 2. need for interoperable implementations
… 3. clarifying IETF's approach
… there is a gap in JWS
… Plugfest could be used to check the interoperability
… and we could give some suggestion to IETF

McCool: one possible thing
… signature as an experimental extension
… then later on, could change it based on IETF's work

Oliver: IETF JOSE is a closed WG but COSE WG is still open
… it's working on CBOR, though

McCool: COSE is mandate for CBOR
… not necessarily correct for JOSE
… my feeling is we need much modularity
… if we did it as an extension, push off the feature till the next spec
… we could write a context file which use it
… recommend some method to handle the signature
… not MUST but simply recommend
… and for the next Charter we'll make commitment

Oliver: people would like to focus on the signature part
… regardless of the TD part

Philipp: make sense to describe that within the Security Best Practices document?

McCool: would make sense

Kaz: would agree with that direction for this Charter period

McCool: ok
… (describes updated actions)
… extract the current spec for signatures and put it in a separate document

Kaz: where to put that?

McCool: maybe under my private repo?

Kaz: maybe a bit confusing
… would be better to create yet another dedicated repo for that purpose

McCool: ok
… what would be a good name?

Kaz: simply a subdirectory of wot-security, e.g., signature?

McCool: would have trouble with HTML rendering...

(some more discussion on the possible name for the repo)

Kaz: btw, we should have some more discussion with the TAG and the Security groups too

McCool: yeah, the question here is when we want to use it

fyi, XML Signature Syntax and Processing Version 2.0 REC

Kaz: think we should start with discussion with PLH and Ralph

McCool: (adds some more comments on expected actions)
… we need to collaborate with IETF too
… when is there next meeting?

IETF meetings

McCool: IETF 112 will be held Nov 6-12

Kaz: technically, we can invite somebody from IETF to our vF2F during TPAC

McCool: yeah, we can do that too
… e.g., Carsten Bormann
… we need at least one implementation for IETF, and two if we want to make it a W3C REC
… wondering if we want to include this into our next WoT WG Charter
… not crit for TD 2.0.ical if it becomes an IETF RFC and we simply cite it
… for TD 1.x, it would be optional/experimental and invokable by using an extension vocabulary.

McCool's updated comments

Issue 16

Issue 16 - Expand Acknowledgements

McCool: need to check who made contributions
… (checks the GitHub repository)

McCool's comments

Issue 14

Issue 14 - TD Signatures, Key Management, and Object Security

<citrullin> related PR 1151 on the wot-thing-description repo

McCool's comments to Issue 14

also another comment to TD PR 1151

[adjourned]

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