Meeting minutes
Overview of current work
JA: I've been working on something that lots of people seem to like
JA: Showed to Josh last week
Happy to show you Michael.
MC: please do
JA: Gives overview of his work - created some new terms
MC: How do functions and needs relate?
JA: <explains>
Josh: Jake will you share this deck?
JA: Yes
JA: Asks how far user needs should go, their granularity etc.
Lots of variability
Discusses intersections etc
Mentions the goal of creating new guidelines for WCAG etc, and that they are basd on requirements/outcomes
JA: I think the terms are interchangable.
JA, wonders what are the simple solutions are for those outcomes
We had variability in definitions of user needs
This is useful for helping define user outcomes
Gives overview of intersection between user needs and functions => Outcomes
JA: I deleted many of the categorisations
and simplified to just the high level
and I started to fit them in.
Demonstrating concise and clear requirements
It an relate to WCAG but does not have to be WCAG specific
JA: I found that when filling in I was identifying some needs being too granular for our definition
they should be moved as they represent an intersection
Doing this sets more clear boundaries on the high level user needs we are looking at
JA: Working like this helps to create boundaries
JA: This feels like a complete, and right way of doing things.
JA: I think if we fill in this spreadsheet it could be what we want
It may also help with Principles
JOC: thanks Jake, looks great to me, need to understand a bit better but v promising
MC: So I'm wondering about the high level requirements, they seem like the guidelines in WCAG - will these be broken down into technology or tool guidelines?
JA: No. I'm not sure how to write these outcomes - but we need to figure that out.
JA: We need to spend some time writing these - some things can be taken from WCAG etc.
MC: We should take that from WCAG, put it into context and edit from there.
JA: My first exercise is to fill in the spread sheet, and identify clear user need and user function
then we are nearly complete
then next exercise is to add the WCAG criteria, as an exercise at intersections
JA: This helps us identify gaps
JOC: +1 to this as an exercise
MC: The DB I'm working on would allow some many to many mappings.
MC: It will be interesting to see if a certain outcome maps to many sections.
This is another dimension
JOC: <groks where Jake is coming from with extensively mapping intersections and then doing gap analysis against existing standards>
MC: +1 to that - as well look at things like WCAG, we may find it does mostly map except for things we can't place
That may indicate either a non essential requirement or we have an incomplete list
MC: Suggests looking at guidelines early
JOC: I'd like input from Charles on this also - so we can confirm that this idea as an abstraction and tool is going in the right direction.
ALso I'd like us to check, map with WCAG sooner rather than later
MC: Sounds good -
<Michael demonstrates some of the FAST work>
Some of this corresponds with what Jake has
We need to identify 'here is what is needed to enable these needs'
MC: If we had a model like this, we an plug in new technologies
To identify new guideline
MC: This seems like a good candidate framework
JOC: I like that we potentially have a global map of requirements that we can map to existing standards and identify gaps
MC: Ok, next steps - we need something mature enough to show
But also something that we can work on and iterate.
MC: If the feedback shows that this is broken, we have to make sure w haven't massively invested in it.
JA: I started with Percieved, Operable
Would like to work on personlisation..
I'd like the group to look and add comments
Would like to get it 80% complete
THen we can take next steps
MC: Jake can you complete this by next week?
I can give it a shot.
Then on hols
JOC: We can review this when Jake is away
MC: It makes sense that the rest of us can work on this.
In Sept we can take a proposal to the Silver TF
JA: Really want to see peoples comments
JOC: URI for speadsheet
JOC: How does this work relate to the survey?
JA: I've been through it - and have added things - some suggestions are there etc
<MichaelC> https://
JA: WOuld like to have a draft of the spreadsheet ready
WIthout the intersections between them all.
Maybe too open
Some people wanted to know where to start/stop etc
THe boundaries now are more clear.