W3C

– DRAFT –
Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

30 June 2021

Attendees

Present
janina, Joshue108, scott_h, SteveNoble
Regrets
-
Chair
jasonjgw
Scribe
Joshue108

Meeting minutes

Any updates regarding meeting logistics.

JW: Any update on logistics?

I think we addressed much of this last week

XR Accessibility User Requirements - open issues.

If anyone has issues we can come back

JW: We have a series of open issues

A branch relating to COGA feedback has been created

https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/COGA-XR-input/xaur/index.html

JW: Where do we stand?

4.20 Wayfinding - Review of XR Accessibility User Requirements COGA #180

https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/COGA-XR-input/xaur/index.html#mono-audio-option

https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/COGA-XR-input/xaur/index.html#orientation-and-navigation

<jasonjgw> Josh: way finding - Josh has added material related to mono audio.

<jasonjgw> It is important for spatial orientation.

https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/COGA-XR-input/xaur/index.html#spatial-orientation-mono-audio-option

<jasonjgw> Josh broadened the scope of an existing User Need to address spatial orientation issues.

<jasonjgw> Josh updated the title (of the section).

<jasonjgw> Josh added a note characterizing the orientation issues.

<jasonjgw> Josh notes that the suggestions regarding placement of accessibility options are reasonable, but Judy's concerns are well founded.

<Judy> +1 to the importance of discoverability

https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/COGA-XR-input/xaur/index.html#orientation-and-navigation

<Zakim> janina, you wanted to suggest incorporation by reference

<jasonjgw> Josh notes a further issue on orientation/navigation.

JS: I think we shouldn't discuss that here, as it is a general issue

we may just need a pointer

+1 that

<jasonjgw> Josh changed the title to reflect that the orientation and navigation issue is about focus and navigation.

SH: As a screen mag user I think the wording is great

Works well now to have that guidance

JW: Can we pick a doc or cross reference, or note on discoverability?

JB: We should look at what we are pointing people to..

Regarding authoring tool a11y guideance that is old./

JS: Dont have a pointer.

JB: Our stuff may be a little stale or more web.

We may need to do a separate thing on this.

JS: Or ask Silver?

JW: Everyone happy with these changes?

JS: We have a +1 in Zoom

JOC: I will move these changes into main

4.21 Understanding Actionable Targets - Review of XR Accessibility User Requirements COGA #181

https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/181

https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/COGA-XR-input/xaur/index.html#interaction-and-target-customization

<jasonjgw> Josh: Based on discussion at last week's meeting, Josh drafted a note to the effect that these issues are best addressed through the further development of accessibility APIs.

<jasonjgw> Under "interaction and target customization", Josh has added a note regarding the role of assistive technologies in indicating to users what targets are actionable and how to interact with them.

JS: I think this is a general need

But doesn't need we shouldnt say it

Good that COGA surfaced it

It is also a screen reader need

JW: Sounds reasonable

JOC: Any concerns?

JW: This is a general need - essential for some useful for all etc

JW: There is a layer to provide this info on the user side, then there is providing affordances in the UI

Then you have met the requirement

Also relates to https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/184

<jasonjgw> Josh: we still need to discuss 182, 183 and 176.

https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/182

Janina commented on this before

Immersive semantics and customization #182

JOC: Gives overview of backstory

JS: I dont think we need every UI dev to make up their own

this would be confusing

We have overlay mark up technology emerging

So we can say support the personalisation technology

<jasonjgw> Josh will discuss this on a meeting tomorrow and clarify it further.

https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/176

Does not provide enough information for actionable implementation [XAUR] #176

https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/health/virtual-reality-vr-dangers-safety/index.html

<jasonjgw> Discussion of the issue led to reference to an article on losing track of time in immersive environments.

https://xrsi.org

<janina> https://lite.duckduckgo.com/lite/

<janina> Oops, wrong link , one moment ...

JB: I dont know that community

<janina> APA Videos: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/video-examples

SH: Most devices have some sort of health and well being section etc

DOnt know if it needs to be referenced

Logical that XR would have it too

JS: I'd expect the platform to allow the XR environment to do this.

JS: It should talk about integrating with platform provided tooling tools, such as digital wellbeing, alarms etc.

Josh to update user need 12 with this.

JS: There is a relevant video here on media queries

<Raja> So some accessibility issues veer into health (and to be located under digital well-being). Is there a consistent way to make that distinction?

JS: Josh to add these changes to the branch and merge into main etc

JW: This closes issues

Then we will have a draft to review and consider any further concerns etc

I've noticed a couple of editorial issues

Minor things

We are on track towards publication

Come back to this next week, and then proceed with a CFC

JS: Absolutely

Accessibility of Remote Meetings.

JS: Scott wanted to highlight recent work and request review

SH: I need some more time if ok?

JW: Sounds good

SH: All good

Updates and coordination regarding other work (Media Synchronization, audio transformation, Web of Things use cases, etc.).

JW: Janina has update on a user needs document

JS: We have ongoing work in APA, in a cross group effort relating to the Accessibility Guidelines WG

To specify user needs it will help APA in spec reviews of other groups

JS: It will help with gap analysis

Only two questions

All of our TFs can participate

JB: With new people joining the references and the process may be hard to understand.

JB: This relates to the FAST - Framework for the Accessible Specificiation of Technology

https://w3c.github.io/apa/fast/

JB: < Gives background>

JB: There is also a checklist of this

https://w3c.github.io/apa/fast/checklist.html

JB: Is a helpful document, and not sure how much others have looked at it.

JB: This has not come up for review many times before

JS: You will need a login

JB: Raja and Frances will need accounts to login

JS: We can take comments via email

<Raja> ok

<Josh extended the questionnaire closing date till July 7th>

<Raja> I'll check and get access if needed

JS: Regarding the Media Sync and Natural Language Interfaces, I've been working on those

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