W3C

– DRAFT –
ARIA and Assistive Technologies Community Group

27 May 2021

Attendees

Present
alflennik, howard, james_schoels, jesdaigle_, juliette_alexandria, Matt_King, michael_fairchild, Rich_Noah, rob-fentress, rob-fentress_, s3ththompson
Regrets
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Chair
Matt King
Scribe
mck, rob-fentress

Meeting minutes

matt: next meeting is test writing

App Development Workstream Update

Seth: 3 things working on

<Matt_King> Seth: Howard completed work on pagination component

<Matt_King> So, graphQL is now hooked up to test queue

<Matt_King> Second thing is work on test renderer

<Matt_King> Includes fixing the way the setup script runs with a button

<Matt_King> and way to raise an issue from any test.

<Matt_King> Z has PR up for these features

<Matt_King> The PR has a checklist of things covered in the PR that you can read.

<Matt_King> Third area of work in progress is related to generated test files.

<Matt_King> Handed this work off to Howard.

<Matt_King> Git includes functionality called git attributes that allows change of merge behavior for certain files.

<Matt_King> If we treat the generated files as binary, GIT might be able to merge them without complaining; i.e., no conflicts.

<Matt_King> This could unblock conflicts during merge.

<Matt_King> Howeard is continuing to work on the GitHub action we previously discussed.

<Matt_King> JS: for individual html test files seems like a good idea, but could be a problem for index.html

<Matt_King> Seth: this would need to be accompnaied by a GitHub action that triggers a rebuild after the merge is complete.

<Matt_King> That would take care of index.html.

<Matt_King> Howard: tested it with pattern matching to determine which files to treat as generated but the idea of using a build directory would be good way to isolate the treatment as binary

<Matt_King> Michael: likes putting all the generated files into a build dir

<Matt_King> James: +1

<Matt_King> Remember need index.html for githack or netlify

<Matt_King> James: what is pr for setup script button?

<s3ththompson> https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/pull/434

<Matt_King> James: would be good to get overview of user impacting changes in this PR

<Matt_King> Seth: This PR does not include the user visible changes

<Matt_King> It is the foundation for them

<Matt_King> James: where is it planned for the setup script button to be on the test case page

<Matt_King> Seth: Looking at issue 369

<s3ththompson> https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/369

<Matt_King> Consensus from March 4 meeting is that it would be autofocused and named run setup

<Matt_King> Not sure where it would be in the DOM

<Matt_King> It would be dynamically inserted

<Matt_King> James: the example pages do not have dynmic content

<Matt_King> Discussion of location and purpose of setup button and how it impacts experience of person running tests.

<Matt_King> It needs to be in the popup window containing the example.

Test Writing workstream update

<Matt_King> James: Have been working on tests for new slider examples; almost finished.

<Matt_King> Have a bit of a backlog with the PRs. Excited about avoiding merge conflicts on the new PRs.

<Matt_King> Should help a lot with our progress.

<Matt_King> Still owe PR to modify alert example for APG.

<Matt_King> The updated sliders are not appearing on gh-pages for APG.

<Matt_King> Rob: qq about feedback on PRs. What kind of feedback?

<Matt_King> James: feedback about bugs and assertions

<Matt_King> are good.

<Matt_King> The question about hints you raised is a CG discussion.

<Matt_King> We do have an open discussion about hints. we should talk about that a meeting soon.

<Matt_King> everything else is fair game.

Automation workstream update

<Matt_King> Seth: Mainly focused on NVDA prototype; it is rebased.

<Matt_King> Going to investigate the cross-AT approach to examining speech out for all Windows AT.

<Matt_King> Exploring SAPI 5 voidce driver to capture speech output

<Matt_King> Have been able to intercept words in research protytpe.

<Matt_King> James: are there automation meetings?

<Matt_King> Seth: not yet; should be starting soon.

<Matt_King> James: I'd like to join one of the meetings to talk about capturing speech.

<Matt_King> Think we can do it with an NVDA synth driver.

<Matt_King> Need a T that sends otuput to two places.

<Matt_King> If it is system wide, could also work with Narrator

<Matt_King> Seth: when we get it scheduled, we'll post to wiki and notify

<Matt_King> Seth: One other thing, tangential, about co-design. we may have something on this soon. May tackle browsing reports.

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