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18:43:18 <Matt_King> MEETING: ARIA and Assistive Technologies Community Group
18:43:38 <Matt_King> CHAIR: Matt King
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19:08:21 <rob-fentress> scribe: rob-fentress
19:08:53 <rob-fentress> matt:next meeting is test writing
19:09:15 <Matt_King> TOPIC: App Development Workstream Update
19:10:06 <rob-fentress> Seth: 3 things working on
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19:11:41 <Matt_King> Seth: Howard completed work on pagination component
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19:12:40 <Matt_King> So, graphQL is now hooked up to test queue
19:12:52 <Matt_King> Second thing is work on test renderer
19:13:15 <Matt_King> Includes fixing the way the setup script runs with a button
19:13:26 <Matt_King> and way to raise an issue from any test.
19:13:34 <Matt_King> Z has PR up for these features
19:14:09 <Matt_King> The PR has a checklist  of things covered in the PR that you can read.
19:14:28 <Matt_King> Third area of work in progress is related to generated test files.
19:14:37 <Matt_King> Handed this work off to Howard.
19:15:07 <Matt_King> Git includes functionality called git attributes that allows change of merge behavior for certain files.
19:15:37 <Matt_King> If we treat the generated files as binary, GIT might be able to merge them without complaining; i.e., no conflicts.
19:15:48 <Matt_King> This could unblock conflicts during merge.
19:16:03 <Matt_King> Howeard is continuing to work on the GitHub action we previously discussed.
19:17:10 <Matt_King> JS: for individual html test files seems like a good idea, but could be a problem for index.html
19:17:36 <Matt_King> Seth: this would need to be accompnaied by a GitHub action that triggers a rebuild after the merge is complete.
19:17:49 <Matt_King> That would take care of index.html.
19:19:04 <Matt_King> Howard: tested it with pattern matching to determine which files to treat as generated but the idea of using a build directory would be good way to isolate the treatment as binary
19:19:49 <Matt_King> Michael: likes putting all the generated files into a build dir
19:20:13 <Matt_King> James: +1
19:20:33 <Matt_King> Remember need index.html for githack or netlify
19:25:27 <Matt_King> James: what is pr for setup script button?
19:25:30 <s3ththompson> https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/pull/434
19:26:27 <Matt_King> James: would be good to get overview of user impacting changes in this PR
19:27:02 <Matt_King> Seth: This PR does not include the user visible changes
19:27:10 <Matt_King> It is the foundation for them
19:27:40 <Matt_King> James: where is it planned for the setup script button to be on the test case page
19:28:21 <Matt_King> Seth: Looking at issue 369
19:28:25 <s3ththompson> https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/369
19:29:28 <Matt_King> Consensus from March 4 meeting is that it would be autofocused and named run setup
19:29:40 <Matt_King> Not sure where it would be in the DOM
19:29:48 <Matt_King> It would be dynamically inserted
19:30:16 <Matt_King> James: the example pages do not have dynmic content
19:34:17 <Matt_King> Discussion of location and purpose of setup button and how it impacts experience of person running tests.
19:34:35 <Matt_King> It needs to be in the popup window containing the example.
19:43:11 <Matt_King> TOPIC: Test Writing workstream update
19:43:30 <Matt_King> James: Have been working on tests for new slider examples; almost finished.
19:43:56 <Matt_King> Have a bit of a backlog with the PRs. Excited about avoiding merge conflicts on the new PRs.
19:44:07 <Matt_King> Should help a lot with our progress.
19:44:32 <Matt_King> Still owe PR to modify alert example for APG.
19:46:05 <Matt_King> The updated sliders are not appearing on gh-pages for APG.
19:49:21 <Matt_King> Rob: qq about feedback on PRs. What kind of feedback?
19:49:48 <Matt_King> James: feedback about bugs and assertions
19:49:56 <Matt_King> are good.
19:50:07 <Matt_King> The question about hints you raised is a CG discussion.
19:50:33 <Matt_King> We do have an open discussion about hints. we should talk about that a meeting soon.
19:50:52 <Matt_King> everything else is fair game.
19:53:05 <Matt_King> TOPIC: Automation workstream update
19:53:57 <Matt_King> Seth: Mainly focused on NVDA prototype; it is rebased.
19:54:38 <Matt_King> Going to investigate the cross-AT approach to examining  speech out for all Windows AT.
19:55:07 <Matt_King> Exploring SAPI 5 voidce driver to capture speech output
19:55:41 <Matt_King> Have been able to intercept words in research protytpe.
19:55:54 <Matt_King> James: are there automation meetings?
19:56:07 <Matt_King> Seth: not yet; should be starting soon.
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19:57:17 <Matt_King> James: I'd like to join one of the meetings to talk about capturing speech.
19:57:28 <Matt_King> Think we can do it with an NVDA synth driver.
19:58:24 <Matt_King> Need a T that sends otuput to two places.
19:58:48 <Matt_King> If it is system wide, could also work with Narrator
19:59:24 <Matt_King> Seth: when we get it scheduled, we'll post to wiki and notify
20:00:20 <Matt_King> Seth: One other thing, tangential, about co-design. we may have something on this soon. May tackle browsing reports.
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