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coralie, yes, we would like to discuss some things
<koalie> ok
Kaz: animation video captioning in the agenda?
Sebastian: yes, one of the issues
<kaz> Feb-16
Sebastian: animation, captions, hosting of video, pr about video thumbnail, documentation page updates, action to look at all issues related to web pages (will cover today)
Sebastian: any objections to publish?
… no, to be published
project on github for IoT projects
Sebastian: interesting project, high ranked, would be good to list WoT
… daniel to provide a PR; just a link, but which URI should be use?
… should we wait for the new web site?
Sebastian: probably we should wait
<sebastian> URL for the WoT Welcome page (currently used for the WoT Landing page)
Sebastian: this will be the new main web page, end of this week, most likely
<koalie> https://
also, is there a tool to check web pages?
Kaz: yes, there is a tool, link checker
Daniel: do you want to check that
<koalie> W3C Link Checker
<kaz> kaz: please go ahead and check it :)
<koalie> [also the ",checklink" suffix on any w3.org URL that is public, is a useful tool]
after fixing the english, will merge the PR directly and send daniel an email so he can do the HTML check
Kaz: also ran the spell checker and fixed some typos in the captions
Sebastian: but there is still the question about where to host the video?
Kaz: don't think that is an open question, should be on W3C
McCool: my question was not about hosting, but where to archive it
<koalie> I believe it's stored. Unless you plug a player in which case that depends on the player.
McCool: does the W3C video server
… downscale?
koalie: no extra compression when the video is archived in W3C site
… but if we plug in a player, ie. YouTube, then there may be some additional conversion for that, but my preference is that it be played ONLY from youtube
Kaz: question is whether we need to have a backup video on W3C side or not
McCool: uploading to YouTube is not good for archival, since reencodes, so just need a place to store the original
Kaz: I thought I asked you to mention our requests directly on the email thread with Dom ad Coralie, but I'll proceed with the discussion.
koalie: not a problem to do the archive, but note that it will be *playable* only from YouTube
Sebastian: kaz, I can't do the upload, you need to
Kaz: also need to check that the captions are ok
McCool: can you share a link to the captions?
<kaz> modified caption VTT file
McCool: let's rename this to include the language, put in github (wot-marketing) somewhere, clean up the english version, then ask for volunteers to do translations
<citrullin> @cris https://
McCool: and I think we have native speakers for German, Italian, French, and Japanese, at least
… let's use github to manage the captions and translations; can't store video file, but captions are just a text file
<cris> @citrullin cool so vtt is supported
Sebastian: I can't find the email thread with dom
<koalie> [note: Dom is off this week, as stated before. He may be called, he said. He'll be back at work on March 1]
Kaz: ok, let me find it and make sure are on it and resend
<citrullin> @cris yes, not the prefered format, but it is supported. If it doesn't work properly, we can still deal with it.
McCool: let's just get everything ready and Dom can hopefully quickly do the launch setup on Monday
update document page with links
McCool: I think we should update the explainer as well; let's create an issue about it
… also instead of linking directly to videos, tutorials, etc. from that page, let's link to other pages which organize each class of material
… to avoid redundancy
<sebastian> https://
Daniel: is also an outstanding PR to add a video subpage
Sebastian: only small comment about video page
McCool: I can change "Links" to "Further Reading" when I do my fix-up pass
<kaz> PR 122 - Pr 120 followup
Sebastian: ok, then in the meantime will merge PR
WoT Video Page
Sebastian: would like area (page) that collect all the videos and organize them
… and daniel you also provided a PR for this?
… created just a subpage, but probably need to track down some additional videos
… e.g. the one by Jeff Jaffe, Lemonbeat, workshop by Siemens, etc.
McCool: coralie, are we ok with embedding videos directly in pages? Any privacy issues?
Philipp: problem with embedding is that resources from twitter, etc. are loaded when the page is loaded?
<cris> +1
Daniel: easy to just put in a thumbnail, and have it open a new page when clicked
Philipp: forcing the user to load third-party code is the problem, i.e. direct embedding
… so just visiting the page means sending info to twitter, youtube, etc. just by visiting the page
Daniel: video thumbnails are easy, but for twitter not so easy; can add link to visit twitter
McCool: suggest that for now we just use a link, and take out the news feed embedding; later we can figure out a way to scrape twitter to get the latest news without forcing loading of twitter resources
Sebastian: ok, well, let's merge the current PR, then create an issue to cleanup the twitter embedding
… for now the twitter cleanup can just be a link
Daniel: will cleanup by doing a screenshot for now
… that way the layout does not get messed up
how to handle the WoT-JP CG
Sebastian: I thought there was a PR for this, but it seems is not the case
… kaz, don't have anything from your side
… but assume we will put it on the "Community Group" page
McCool: kaz, will you do a PR to add content to this page?
Kaz: yes, working with Toumura-san, Mizushima-san
McCool: can be very simple, just a short description and a link
… and put a section at the bottom of the current page, rather than another page
new WoT page needs to be upward-compatible
Daniel: missing testing info right now
Sebastian: kaz you check the current status and see if it's ok
… we also don't have to be complete at launch; we can add extra material later
Kaz: my point also; let's just create a checklist
McCool: for launch, let's let Dom get it up, then we can announce it
koalie: will also need a signal when you are ready
Sebastian: ok, will aim for that this Friday
Daniel: might be tricky to do this Friday
McCool: I would be ok with a short meeting on Friday to do a final check and make the decision to launch
adjourn