Meeting minutes
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removing specific mentions to formats in the principles
we should make more generic "EPUB" and "ONIX" in the principles document
George: may we have "accessibility metadata" instead of only "metadata"?
<George> +1
<laurent_> +1
avneeshsingh: do we approve it?
+1
<avneeshsingh> approved #32 with modification of accessibility metadata instead of metadata
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avneeshsingh: this problem mainly address accessibility metadata, not generic metadata
… so section 3 is more for examples
MadeleineRothberg_: I think the issue is it ok to have "audiobook" in the front, instead that inside the "metadata" section?
gpellegrino: I think that it is only an example
… so we can clarify it
<avneeshsingh> proposal: provide a clarification that this is an example
<MadeleineRothberg_> +1
+1
<George> +1+1
<mgarrish> 0
<avneeshsingh> resolved
<laurent_> 0
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avneeshsingh: right now conformance URL points to IDPF
… since we are updating the URLs, why don't we update it?
… the fact is that we will publish that document in 2022
mgarrish: actually they do not point to pages, but they are URIs
… so we can change the note from "they point to an IDPF page" to "they point to an IDPF URIs"
avneeshsingh: Matt, can you add it to the issue tracker?
Resolution: agreed with approach mentioned in issue tracker, and Matt will do minor improvements
gpellegrino: may we not close the issue and tag it for the next version?
avneeshsingh: good
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avneeshsingh: these two are straight forward
<avneeshsingh> Proposal: approve #30, #29
+1
<MadeleineRothberg_> +1
+2
<avneeshsingh> resolved
<George> +2
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avneeshsingh: the next issue it is only for techniques, so it is not compulsory to solve it now
avneeshsingh: the basic question is: is an audiobook a publication of only audio? Or also a Media Overlay EPUB is an audiobook?
charles: for me if it has audio it is an audiobook
laurent_: I agree with Charles, but from a user point of view the user interface to access the content is different
George: there are a ot of features that are available in EPUB MO and not in audiobooks (for example searching, highlight), so we have to display the difference
laurent_: maybe we can only change the label "audiobook"
avneeshsingh: I'm concerned that changing the label now, we have to move forward the pubblicatin of the document
<laurent_> I agree with Avneesh
George: do we need something like "multimedia overlay"?
avneeshsingh: right now we have that if access-sufficient = audio, than it is an audiobook
George: I think it is a marketing stuff to describe a publication as purely audio or audio+text
gpellegrino: for only text we have "screenreader friendly", "audiobook" is a type of pubblication, not a way to access the content
mgarrish: is it a metadata problem or is it a wording problem?
… maybe we can say "audio playback" available
<laurent_> Frankly "Audio Playback" would be better than "Audiobook" here
MadeleineRothberg_: I think the problem isn't in the metadata, I think it is more on the label side
… maybe we can use "Full audio available"
… maybe we can use a note, but we can also change the label
George: I think we should add examples about this
avneeshsingh: what is the cost of delaying the publication of 1-2 weeks for changing the label?
<laurent_> Example https://
gpellegrino: may we vote?
<avneeshsingh> Proposal: delay publication a little and correct label for audio books
+1
<MadeleineRothberg_> +1
<mgarrish> +1
<laurent_> +1
<CharlesL> +1
<avneeshsingh> resolved
<George> +1
avneeshsingh: Madeleine maybe you are the right person to find a new wording
laurent_: we can add an example of metadata for EPUB MO as shown here: https://
… I will open an issue on this
<MadeleineRothberg_> +1 to full audio
<CharlesL> +1
avneeshsingh: do we want to brainstorm now for the right label for EPUB MOs?
laurent_: what about full audio?
CharlesL: if it has access-mode sufficient textual we will have "screenreader friendly", maybe also having "full text" we'll also be fine
MadeleineRothberg_: for audio it is simpler: we have only one metadata
avneeshsingh: any volunteer?
gpellegrino: me!
<CharlesL> Yes I can help on the EPUB schema techniques
avneeshsingh: any other stuff?
George: what is our timeline?
avneeshsingh: I think in a week we can have the editorial stuff done
CharlesL: are we planning to add a new examples for "full audio"?
George: maybe we should also have "synchronized text-audio"
avneeshsingh: we can do it in the next version
MadeleineRothberg_: we are only suggesting what to put in the UI, we don't have to list all the different possible combinations
… if providers want to say something more or something different, it is fine"
mgarrish: We have the information for EPUB MO in the metadata (not under accessibility metadata)
CharlesL: in our document we have 4.2 section "Audiobook"
… we have to change also the definition
MadeleineRothberg_: Charles you're right, because right now we are only speaking about audiobooks and not about EPUB MOs
avneeshsingh: I think this is a fundamental thing, in this way we don't focus on content type, but on accessibility features
George: are we opening a new category for synchronized audio and text?
avneeshsingh: not right now
avneeshsingh: thank you all!