W3C

– DRAFT –
ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force

26 January 2021

Attendees

Present
carmacleod, Jemma, jongund, MarkMccarthy, mck, siri
Regrets
bryan, jamesn, sarah
Chair
Matt King
Scribe
carmacleod, Jemma

Meeting minutes

Meeting frequency, roadmap, and agenda planning

<Jemma> Discuss agenda planning strategy:

<Jemma> How to ensure meetings help move most important work forward

<Jemma> When to make time to discuss how to work better, improve task force health, etc.

<Jemma> How to better balance between detailed discussions of design and code vs prioritization and coordination of work

<Jemma> Discuss priorities:

<Jemma> Quality of current content vs new content

<Jemma> PR burndown

<Jemma> Issue burndown

<Jemma> Redesign and aria-at data integration

<Jemma> Ways of increasing velocity:

<Jemma> Growing membership (possibly through community group)

<Jemma> Improving how we work

<Jemma> Contracted contributors (Bocoup)

<Jemma> car: would you ask bocoup to review some of issue?

<Jemma> mck: example can be opininated.. consensus driven is important for taskforce.

<Jemma> mck: we should not contract out core missions

<Jemma> jongund: how about managing "mobile compatibility" for example?

<Jemma> car: we can say like

<Jemma> ....

<Jemma> mck: we may need to work others like EO

<Jemma> mck: I am proposing 2/15 kick off meeting with bocoup, 90min meeeting

<Jemma> meetingn on Feb 16

<Jemma> mck:Matt discusss the idea of converting TF to community group

<Jemma> car: slider example has challenge because there is missing API.

<Jemma> siri: all examples should work for mobile.

<siri> They are using <input type="range"...>

<siri> https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.1/components/forms/

<Jemma> jon: any documentation for mobile support?

<Jemma> mck: there is mobile support under "important notes" for each example.

<Jemma> car: my proposal is to add red and visibvle note - the example which is problematic for mobile.

<siri> +1

<Jemma> jon: we need to figure out what we are going to do common problems for the slider example like a separate meeting.

<Jemma> car: it can be like ARIA deep dive meeting.

<Jemma> mck: I am open to that idea - small group discussion to resolve the pending issues.

<Jemma> and come back to APG to get approval.

<Jemma> mck: how do we operationalize that?

<Jemma> jon: I am willing to recruite people and invite them to example discussion.

<Jemma> ... I can be charge of that particular work.

<siri> +1

<Jemma> mck: can name be the focus group or name of example group?

<Jemma> r

Resolution: Jon will lead the focus group meeting for each APG example.

<Jemma> Mck: Matt will send out 90min meeting annoucement with Bocoup

PR burndown

<Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1699

mck: need people to look at this PR. Seems good to me. External people are waiting on it.

<Jemma> jon and carmacleod will reivew issue 1699 before the final merge.

<Jemma> mck: it will be great to be done before this week so that I can merge

mck: will merge with 2 approving reviews

jongund: Question: for a spinbutton, which is similar to slider, it was ok to use buttons on mobile. But not ok to use on slider?

mck: since we're going to go in the direction of using html inputs, etc, soon, why don't we just start now?

mck: create a separate example, keep the warning notes, show how to use html range input?

mck: document how we're using it?

jemma: is that beyond scope of apg?

jongund: it won't show up in the list of examples because no use of aria, but we can force that...

mck: thing is, we are planning to increase our scope

mck: need to be careful about "different groups giving different guidance for the same things"

mck: but since we are going to consolidate, maybe that's ok

mck: or maybe we're just getting ahead of ourselves?

<Jemma> jemma: my concern is that each taskforce explain the same point differently and users have a burden of cross checking which one is correct one.

<Jemma> that is why APG is focusing on APG first, rather than html examples

<Jemma> mck: navigation tree view was merged

<jongund> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/update-menubar-nav/examples/menubar/menubar-navigation.html

https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1612

mck: there are some conflicts

mck: some of the wording around high contrast, focus staying on menubar

mck: I think we can get this one done this week

jemma: I think 1614 is ready for review

https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1614

<Jemma> summary of meeting

mck: Moving to weekly meetings, next call is Feb 2

<Jemma> 1) going weekly meeting

<Jemma> 2)slider example meeting

<Jemma> 3) kick off meeting on feb/26

Summary of resolutions

  1. Jon will lead the focus group meeting for each APG example.
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