W3C

– DRAFT –
Merchant Business Group

18 January 2021

Attendees

Present
David_Ezell, dezell, Ian, Ian_jacobs, Laura_Townsends, Linda_Toth, Melanie_O'Brien, Phil_Archer, Trent_Addington
Regrets
-
Chair
Mel O'Brien
Scribe
nicktr

Meeting minutes

recap

mel: last time's minutes: https://www.w3.org/2020/12/07-merchantbg-minutes.html)

<phila_> My slides

Barcodes on the web

phila_: GS1 known for barcodes since 1974
… heavily involved in retail, marketplaces, healthcare, transport and technical industries
… and with a global footprint

phila_: lots of different barcodes on products, often more than one
… [slide 5]

phila_: Digital link is single identifier resolvable as URL
… [slide 8]
… concetenating identifiers into a single URL

phila_: [slide 9] ideally we will support multiple redirection

phila_: [slide 13] - how does it work?

phila_: three kinds of resolver

<Ian> Web Linking spec at IETF

phila_: 1) Default
… 2) Ask for specific link type
… 3) Give me everything

<Ian> Linkset: Media Types and a Link Relation Type for Link Sets

phila_: Linksets have ideas in common with DIDs

phila_: [slide 22] - linkType parameter

phila_: So what?
… at least 4 multinational companies committed to using GS1 Digital Link
… use cases for BG?
… product ID

ian: Are any browser vendors interest in the digital link initiative?

phila_: I don't believe that we have approached them

mel: what's the customer journey?
… how does it work on line?

trent: what's the governance process?

phila_: we built it as decentralised system
… we operate a resolver, but we'd expect big retailers to run their own resolver
… tl;dr - whoever runs the resolver chooses how the link is resolved
… our starting point is the domain name

dezell: where is linkset being standardised?

phila_: we are working at IETF

dezell: I noticed you put two different identifiers: one in the URL and one in the query string

phila_: things that are separated in the path are increasingly granular, whereas the query string is in the used for descriptive things (like expiry)

<Ian> nicktr: One thing that might be valuable to online retailers: product artwork could be provided with QRs embedded in the product artwork

mel: is it fair to say that this is a hybrid between barcode and URL?

phila_: it's an entry point
… the more important thing is that is lets consumers see information that *isn't* on the box

mel: but retailers might be worried about journeys outside their site

phila_: we can use modals and iframes

ian: having an identifier that can provide redirection is great
… having things built into browsers can make things less cumbersome
… so there's a data view and a UX view

phila_: language negotiation is perfectly possible but lots of sites don't do it well

mel: let's move on

recruiting more members

mel: talking to people in our networks
… so I've put together a little cold call mail that I wanted to share to get your feedback

mel: text reads


Hi <persons’s name>,

I’m part of the W3C’s business merchant group which has been created to discuss issues and topics related to ecomm.

Because you work for <organisation name> which operates online B2B/B2C I thought the discussions about improving online transactions,

emerging technology, payment solutions would be of interest to your organisation.

<Organisation name>’s input would definitely enrich the conversation and help to shape the recommendations the group delivers.

Have quick read about the group <link> and we can discuss further,

Thanks,


laura: where do we fit at MAG?
… it needs to be about payments
… whereas the BG is talking across wider topics

<Ian> (I read this as Laura saying "our priority would be payments"...good to hear and would be interested in hearing priorities from others as well)

linda: these are not prosperous times - difficult to recruit and retain our own members
… fees make this more difficult

dezell: I have reached out
… and will continue to do so

phila_: difficult to promote another standards org from my own - but not impossible
… and on use cases, receipts and inventory are very relevant, rather than payments

<nicktr> next meeting: Monday 15th Feb

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