<kaz> (discussion on drinking beer and wine on the Christmas day!)
<kaz> scribenick: mlagally
Agenda today: Some updates on document status
... plans for the next months, next events, edi(TD)or tool
Sebastian: We released 4 FPWD: Architecture, TD, Profile, Discovery
... also we published the Scripting API as WG note
Kaz: I made some editorial fixes for the publication, need to create MRs for them
Lagally: Use Cases document planned for February
McCool: target date for pre-CR
drafts is May 1st
... Last possible CR transition is December 9th
<kaz> fyi, milestones calculator
McCool: we only target 1.1 version,
no time for 2.0 in this charter period
... decided in TF calls to push it out beyond December
Sebastian: For TD we discussed 2.0
plans, no final decision yet, but want to focus on 1.1.
version
... almost impossible to have 2.0 in time, propose to push in
next charter
McCool: we could try to have FPWD of
2.0 specs in December
... if we get a charter extension we might be able to do it
Lagally: We should not plan for a charter extension right now
<kaz> kaz: +1
McCool: agree in principle
Sebastian: +1
McCool: We could only do it if we work in parallel on 1.1 and 2.0, however focus on 1.1 would be better
<kaz> Doodle
scribenick: kaz
Lagally: sent a reminder to the expected/potential attendees
McCool: we'll start the new time/date next week?
scribenick: mlagally
Lagally: yes
McCool: will update the calendar invite then
Lagally: we tentatively pick Tuesday starting next week.
Kaz: some of the JP Members have problems with joining the call regularly regardless of the times, they could adjust but would like to know the agenda beforehand. would like to discuss how to solve the issue during the next Use Cases call.
Kaz: ITU-T Liaison - no news
<sebastian> https://www.w3.org/2020/11/proposed-miniapps-wg-charter.html
Kaz: new WG proposal on MiniApps, all AC reps are requested to vote / comment by December 20th
Ege: They presented at TPAC, Framework for mobile apps based on Web technologies
Kaz: Client/Server model, runtime environment by the super app (small browser) and the mini apps (web applications consisting of HTML, CSS and JS), could become a servient for WoT
Sebastian: We are not listed in their
charter as a group to coordinate with
... I will provide a comment as AC rep to the charter
<inserted> Nov-25
McCool: If you have issues we should
discuss with other groups, please label them accordingly
... specifically spatial data
... I will try to get on their agenda, we plan to have a
regular meeting with them
-> No objection, minutes are approved
TPAC minutes for Use Case and Web and Network calls still need to be reviewed
<kaz> WNIG part
McCool: let's review web and
network now
... <gives a quick summary of the call>
Kaz: I don't think the minutes are problematic
<sebastian> https://www.w3.org/2020/10/05-22-wot-minutes.html#wnig
McCool: I will review together with
Sudeep, will mark as reviewed afterwards
... we also need to review APA section
... will reach out to APA guys, we can decide on December
9th.
Lagally: Please review use case section before next main call, we would like to conclude the TPAC minutes in December 9th
Sebastian: we will have to review the
marketing section in the marketing call
... this process is a bit inefficient
McCool: Let's do a resolution next
week
... will ask for review until next main call via email
SDF meeting coming up mid of December
<sebastian> https://doodle.com/poll/xbwnu88is4k7hsxz
<kaz> Niklas Widell's message
Koster: We have sent a doodle poll,
time has been decided, call will be at 2pm UTC on Dec
14th
... SDF is completely open WG, guithub repo, draft, will send
some official pointers
Kaz: there's a partial overlap with the discovery call
Koster: we had a kickoff, this is the
first interim meeting
... we will talk about features for 1.1. We have some solid
proposals already
Sebastian: A student of mine has created a converter between SDF and TD
McCool: we canceled discovery for the 14th already
Sebastian: We had a call with OPC-UA on
TD validation, they define some semantic web based tools to
validate specifications against OPC-UA datamodel
... we could work together on a binding document to describe an
OPC-UA interface for binding
... follow-up is planned, they also asked for more material,
will share some links with them
... hope to develop concrete plan for next steps
Koster: Was this a WoT/UPC-UA meeting?
Sebastian: We met with the validation TF
Koster: I would also like to participate in this
<sebastian> https://opcfoundation.org/news/opc-foundation-news/w3c-and-opcf-to-integrate-opc-ua-into-the-web-of-things/
McCool: Note that this is the "validation" group, there are other groups working on the information model
<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to ask about the difference between the OPC-UA datamodel and TD
Kaz: do you want to continue this discussion in the TD calls?
Sebastian: maybe, we should work on the
collaboration
... Schaeffler and Ericsson, Hitachi and Fujitsu is also
interested in active collaburation with OPC foundation
Lagally: would be better to have a page for new comers with all the correct links
<mjk> +1 create a newcomer page with all the correct links to the github repos
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
Daniel: scripting - celebrated the publication of the updated Note, discussed validation on the directory as well
McCool: security - schedule updates and discussion on issues
Sebastian: marketing - discussion with Coralie
McCool: plugfest - schedule updates
Sebastian: TD - WoT Web page, 1.1 publication, 2.0 roadmap, issues on Thing Model, etc.
Lagally: architecture - schedule updates, discussion on interoperability
McCool: no PlugFest call
Sebastian: talk with you during the TD call!
Lagally: regrets for TD call today
[main call adjourned; no PlugFest call; TD call in one hour]