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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

24 Sep 2020

Agenda

Attendees

Present
addison, Richard, Fuqiao, David, JcK
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison

Contents


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Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-945?

<trackbot> action-945 -- Richard Ishida to Review predefined-counter-styles for changes and send info to group so we can take a publication decision -- due 2020-08-20 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/945

action-955?

<trackbot> action-955 -- Addison Phillips to Update pr of charmod-norm, merge, and send text to richard for posting as a wide review -- due 2020-09-24 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/955

close action-955

<trackbot> Closed action-955.

<scribe> ACTION: richard: check with webmaster on how to publish charmod-norm for wide review

<trackbot> Created ACTION-956 - Check with webmaster on how to publish charmod-norm for wide review [on Richard Ishida - due 2020-10-01].

Info Share

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-tests/results/css-logical.html

richard: mentioned that I was working on css logical tests
... now published the results for major browsers
... see link above
... very interesting. works on all browsers. alternative to width and height
... margin works on all
... except that only the atomic properties that work
... the shortcuts (2 or 4 values) then only works in gecko some of the time and none of the others
... padding same
... border width ok, (etc.)

<xfq> related css issue on shorthands: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1282

richard: some gaps but more success that expected

addison: follow up?

richard: worth it on shortcuts, useful to have working

<xfq> some current browser bugs: https://github.com/w3c/afrlreq/issues/8#issuecomment-689454642

fuqiao: put link on shorthand issue in css

richard: quite a long time since

<scribe> ACTION: richard: ping fantasai and respond on issues related to css shorthand logical

<trackbot> Created ACTION-957 - Ping fantasai and respond on issues related to css shorthand logical [on Richard Ishida - due 2020-10-01].

richard: fuqiao you posted another gap analysis issue, will respond with links, etc

addison: i18n considerations sections?

https://github.com/w3c/IntersectionObserver/issues/415

<xfq> Example Internationalization sections:

<xfq> https://w3c.github.io/manifest/#internationalization

<xfq> https://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld11/#internationalization

<xfq> WebApps WG's meta issue: https://github.com/w3c/webappswg/issues/25

<scribe> ACTION: addison: write short summary about "i18n considerations" sections for considering by wg

<trackbot> Created ACTION-958 - Write short summary about "i18n considerations" sections for considering by wg [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-10-01].

RADAR Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

Ready-made Counter Styles update

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/predefined-counter-styles/

richard: see revision log
... some things floating about
... some korean and arabic issues
... more things under discussion
... I think we could publish as is
... also some things about greek
... lower-greek is supported by browsers but not used in greek
... actually used by mathematics folks
... made a note there

addison: please vote on publishing predefined-counter-styles as updated note

+1

<r12a> +1

<xfq> +1

<David> +

<David> +1

<JcK> +1

<David> -

RESOLUTION: publish updated predefined-counter-styles

LTLI changes: ready for TR and wide review?

https://w3c.github.io/ltli/

richard: a bunch of editorial stuff
... a few things I'd like to chew over
... still not sure that definition of locale is correct

https://w3c.github.io/ltli/#locale

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/ltli/#locale

<r12a> Locale. An identifier or shorthand token, such as a language tag, that indicates a set of [international preferences]. The identifier is generally related to a language and/or geographic region, and is passed in APIs or set in the operating environment to obtain culturally-affected behavior within a system or process.

like this

jck: more consistent with POSIX

fuqiao: can be a set of tokens

<xfq> like LC_NUMERIC, LC_TIME etc.

related to the language or geographic region of the user

and/or

addison: will change

https://w3c.github.io/ltli/#ltli-format-like-doc-language

will propose more edits on 'data values' / 'data types'

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: write short summary about "i18n considerations" sections for considering by wg
[NEW] ACTION: richard: check with webmaster on how to publish charmod-norm for wide review
[NEW] ACTION: richard: ping fantasai and respond on issues related to css shorthand logical
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. publish updated predefined-counter-styles
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