Meeting minutes
<riccardoAlbertoni> PROPOSED: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2020/07/01-dxwgdcat-minutes
accept last meeting minutes
<alejandra> 0 (was absent)
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<SimonCox__> +1
Resolution: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2020/07/01-dxwgdcat-minutes
<riccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2020.07.15
accept agenda
riccardoAlbertoni: Any changes?
<SimonCox__> +1
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where we are so far
riccardoAlbertoni: We focussed first on versioning, making some draft proposals, and taking some working decisions on GH issues.
… The idea is to organise a dedicated meeting in an agreed date to decide what we want to achieve.
… There are some solutions from specific vocabularies, and we have to decide whether to incorporate their data model, or stay at a more general level.
… The second aspect we have been covering is about data services, following feedback from outside the group.
… So we are going through these issues at the moment.
AndreaPerego: Some of the issues about data service are about how to query it to get the relevant data and if a database is a data service.
planning for next month
riccardoAlbertoni: For many European members, August is holidays. So we should decide whether to stop or not.
<SimonCox__> No holidays here!
riccardoAlbertoni: Maybe there are also plan for the broader group.
<alejandra> I'm not sure yet about availability in August
AndreaPerego: I may be able to attend anyway.
riccardoAlbertoni: What about restarting the last week of August?
<SimonCox__> Instead of discussing meetings, I'd like to discuss priorities?
riccardoAlbertoni: I actually don't see problems to have meetings in August if we want do that.
riccardoAlbertoni: About priorities, what we have is versioning and data services. But we can also include other items.
… SimonCox, do you have any suggestion?
SimonCox__: About data service, I am reluctant to go further than giving some directions. I think I can help more on versioning.
riccardoAlbertoni: I would like to make some decision on versioning first. So I suggest we try to have this sprint (either in August or in September).
<SimonCox__> +1 to Versioning sprint at the beginning of September
<SimonCox__> ... but would be good to have a strawman/draft first?
riccardoAlbertoni: The other possibility is implement some minor revisions on this topic, and then discuss later other issues.
… I have also sent a mail around with a summary of the issues. Don't know if this is useful - hope so.
alejandra: About what we mean with sprint. Is it a normal or an extended meeting?
riccardoAlbertoni: I'm open to both options - either 1 or 2 hours. The important thing is to have all editors present.
<SimonCox__> Do we also need Makx? He has some concrete/strong ideas
riccardoAlbertoni: Makx would be very welcome.
riccardoAlbertoni: So, to summarise: we are not going to plan meetings in August, unless something urgent happens. And we have the sprint in September.
Action: riccardoAlbertoni to change the doodle poll to include dates for September
<trackbot> Created ACTION-428 - Change the doodle poll to include dates for september [on Riccardo Albertoni - due 2020-07-22].
<riccardoAlbertoni> Opportunities to disseminate DCAT 2, for example, providing feedback and suggestion via the RDA survey (https://bit.ly/3emXK0s)
DCAT dissemination
riccardoAlbertoni: There's some RDA work that could be relevant, and the question is how to make them aware of DCAT.
… The RDA Metadata IG is trying to identify key metadata elements, and DCAT may have something to say on some of them.
<SimonCox__> Ranking 15 (?) elements before you can go further is not a great experience!
riccardoAlbertoni: So if we want to contribute, explaining the solutions we have adopted, we can add content to the documents they prepared.
… But I have not been following closely the work of this group, so I don't know if it is appropriate being proactive.
SimonCox__: I have some concerns of the approach they are taking.
… It is true however that DCAT is part of the game in RDA, but many people are also looking at schema.org.
… So, we may contribute, but I am not sure about the impact.
alejandra: I am not too familiar with RDA Metadata IG. I am also not sure how prioritising/ordering the elements helps
… Also, I have not seen any reference to DCAT in their documents.
… So it may be good having DCAT mentioned there.
riccardoAlbertoni: I tend to agree. I have not understood why they are doing this.
<riccardoAlbertoni> ack
AndreaPerego: I share the same concerns. But we can try.
riccardoAlbertoni: So, how we can proceed?
alejandra: I think it is important to understand what we want to achieve.
<riccardoAlbertoni> uality {http://bit.ly/2svs0Cc }
AndreaPerego: Yes, good question. Not sure how much impact it may have adding DCAT mappings.
riccardoAlbertoni: An example is my contribution about quality. I think it is important for them to know that for some elements DCAT implements them in a given way.
<riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to andrea
AndreaPerego: The issue is that it is unclear if DCAT is considered relevant for their work, so before devoting time and effort it may be good to know that.
<riccardoAlbertoni> [http://rd-alliance.github.io/metadata-directory/standards/dcat-data-catalog-vocabulary.html
alejandra: Yes, this would require time, and I would prefer focussing on DCAT issues.
<SimonCox__> I have to go now
PWinstanley: Just to remind about Makx's email, about a DCAT webinar for DCMI.
… I am happy to do it, but if anyone else is interested... They are thinking of a 40-min talk.
… I think that the picture we can give would be very much fit for the primer we are thinking of.
<riccardoAlbertoni> +1 alejandra
alejandra: I think it would be indeed be useful for the group to have a standard set of slides for DCAT.
… We can also make them available publicly.
<riccardoAlbertoni> Happy to collaborate too
<riccardoAlbertoni> thanks ..
<riccardoAlbertoni> bye
[meeting adjourned]
<riccardoAlbertoni> simonCox+