W3C

– DRAFT –
DXWG DCAT subgroup

01 July 2020

Attendees

Present
AndreaPerego, PWinstanley, riccardoAlbertoni, SimonCox
Regrets
-
Chair
RiccardoAlbertoni
Scribe
PWinstanley

Meeting minutes

<riccardoAlbertoni> PROPOSED: approve last meeting minutes https://‌www.w3.org/‌2020/‌06/‌17-dxwgdcat-minutes

proposed: accept minutes

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1

<SimonCox> +0 not present

+1

Resolution: approve last meeting minutes https://‌www.w3.org/‌2020/‌06/‌17-dxwgdcat-minutes

<riccardoAlbertoni> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌wiki/‌Meetings:Telecon2020.07.01

riccardoAlbertoni: Any changes to the agenda?

<SimonCox> no changes

Examples of a manifest for DCAT2 (https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌1243)

Examples of a manifest for DCAT2

riccardoAlbertoni: the interest here is specifically relating to many files and their aggregation
… looking at the European Data Portal there are some examples, but are there any others/

<riccardoAlbertoni> https://‌www.europeandataportal.eu/‌data/‌datasets/‌593c5b46-5c92-475e-90fa-20077fc3c06e?locale=it

<SimonCox> https://‌www.w3.org/‌TR/‌vocab-dcat-2/#examples-bag-of-files

<SimonCox> but I suspect that dcterms:hasPart might be better

riccardoAlbertoni: even if it is not in the manifest, using the DCAT example of a bag of files will be helpful

SimonCox: I did this work a long time ago - we used the dct:relation to point to the components, but on reflection using dct:hasPart might be better.
… because relations have no semantics and it could be a seeAlso etc, but the specific case here is saying that the set of artefacts together represent the catalogues assets, but we can also use in the context of elements of a dataset
… this might mean moving dct:hasPart to a property of dcat:Resource

<SimonCox> ... or maybe on dcat:Dataset

riccardoAlbertoni: so we are pointing to some kind of answer, but what if there are files in different directories etc, where do we point to then?

SimonCox: relative paths can be used in the URI, not 'linked data' friendly, but appropriate semantics

riccardoAlbertoni: I think that both of these examples will be helpful

SimonCox: an improvement of the spec would be to make it explicit that dct:hasPart can be used in a dataset description

<SimonCox> i.e. `dcterms:hasPart` is recommended for use on `dcat:Dataset` (promote from `dcat:Catalog`)

riccardoAlbertoni: I think we should provide examples, but not change the recommendation

<SimonCox> This is also relevant https://‌www.w3.org/‌TR/‌vocab-dcat-2/#qualified-relationship

Action: riccardoAlbertoni to update examples and add notes to github issue 1243

<trackbot> Created ACTION-426 - Update examples and add notes to github issue 1243 [on Riccardo Albertoni - due 2020-07-08].

Service Descriptions

riccardoAlbertoni: is there any objection to clustering these 3 issues in the same milestone?

PWinstanley: the first (cataloguing the SQL database data) seems different to the other two, which are about an entry point to accessing data

riccardoAlbertoni: they all ask for more information about data services - they want to take data from a service, and the pointer is providing more than one dataset so the type of direction to get the query targetting a specific dataset is required
… Andrea has already suggested some response. I think that this is out of the scope of DCAT

AndreaPerego: in the last plenary I outlined the issue
… DCAT is generally about describing material that is available on the web, whereas the enquiry was about things which are more likely to be enterprise data

<riccardoAlbertoni> ack

AndreaPerego: I also got the impression that the requirement is somehow related to the data service part (API etc) and this is where our use cases ended

AndreaPerego: extensions that suit enterprise use are generally specific to the enterprise.
… so I'm not sure if this is generalisable

PWinstanley: are the requirements of gov getting more sophisticated?

SimonCox: maybe. There are also internal enthusiasts who are looking to bring semantic tech into their cataloging efforts

riccardoAlbertoni: A reply might include some guidance on extending DCAT via the dcat:DataService with things like ODBC connection and example queries

AndreaPerego: unless we are going to get more enquiries about the same topic we should just provide some guidance, which can include examples of how to express queries etc

AndreaPerego: a comment about the manifest: one of the things I was thinking is that we could ask for use cases, because the manifest file can mean a simple list or more sophisticated information that can assist with e.g. visualising the archived data

Action: riccardoAlbertoni to reply to the point about manifests [ https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌1243 ]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-427 - Reply to the point about manifests [ https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌1243 ] [on Riccardo Albertoni - due 2020-07-08].

Summary of action items

  1. riccardoAlbertoni to update examples and add notes to github issue 1243
  2. riccardoAlbertoni to reply to the point about manifests [ https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌1243 ]

Summary of resolutions

  1. approve last meeting minutes https://‌www.w3.org/‌2020/‌06/‌17-dxwgdcat-minutes
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 121 (Mon Jun 8 14:50:45 2020 UTC).