W3C


Publishing Business Group Telecon

09 June 2020

Attendees

Present
Daihei, dauwhe, jkamata, jyoshii, liisamk, Makoto, Michelle_Kelly, ShinyaTakami, skk, wendyreid
Regrets
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Chair
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Scribe
dauwhe, liisamk

Meeting minutes

<dauwhe> Date: 2020-06-09

<Makoto> Thanks, Dave.

EPUB 3 WG Charter

Daihei: almost worked out all the details

wendyreid: almost complete, added Shinya as a third co-chair

<dauwhe> https://‌w3c.github.io/‌epub-3-wg-charter/

wendyreid: today got feedback from Judy Brewer from the APA and changes were made
… ready to go to the next phase to send to the W3CM

Daihei: can you comment on the process from here?

wendyreid: the W3CM process should be a week or two and maybe the week after next would send to the AC
… then go to the AC for a 6-week process
… if approved would be around the end of July
… start date has been changed to be Sept. 1

Daihei: important announcement that Shinya Takami-san has accepted co-chair position
… W3M happy and met to discuss collaboration
… when the charter goes to approval for W3M he will be nominated a co-chair with Wendy and Dave
… he can represent the Japanese industry and be a great co-chair for the global industry, this is an honor for the Japanese publishing industry

ShinyaTakami: all of you know me, hello and nominated as one of co-chairs of the EPUB 3 WG with Dave and Wendy
… ask Daihei to help to support with the co-chair job and willing to work and bring the perspective of the Japanese industry

Daihei: will assist Shinya in this work

The Digital Publishing Summit

Daihei: was originally scheduled to take place in Madrid, but was held online
… organized by Laurent of EDRLab and we presented on the epub survey

liisamk: we were asked by laurent to talk about where epub is going
… and what we learned from the survey
… we learned epub is good and strong and healthy
… and that our work is not yet done
… hence the EPUB 3 WG
… and make sure EPUB becomes a full w3c REC, and gets testing and better interop
… and that it be backwards compatible
… people need to not revisit their catalogs
… but there are things people want to do, like mixing FXL and reflow (which is allowed by spec)
… there are interactivity features people want
… we didn't ask about geographic info
… we don't know where they came from
… there were 100 people in the session, lots from Europe, AU, NZ, SA...
… Laurent was happy with attendance; there is video online
… links in meeting agenda

Daihei: looking to translate into Japanese and want to make a presentation in July to the Japanese people who contributed
… want to make sure that they know where global interests are
… planning to involve Shinya to do a presentation together
… Wendy did a great job with the blog post and summary of the survey that is linked in the agenda

Wendy: blog post went up a couple of weeks ago, there has been good feedback
… highlights: EPUB3 is widely used, most people are using EPUB3 and not so much EPUB 2 and PDF
… EPUB features - full bleed images and fixed+reflow, lots of misinformation in the market
… share info about features that are in and work
… people want better testing and reading system conformance
… people also want multiple languages in same book, lots of info about accessibility
… people are thinking about it even if they are doing it yet
… lot of energy around EPUB living on and getting better
… better support for javascript and web APIs
… want more modern things, but to keep the format
… excited to start the work

Collaboration with EDRLab and LIA for Japan

Daihei: out of all these PBG activities and the new direction of the publishing work
… things are having more interest globally
… Laurent gave us the presentation on Thorium and Cristina representing LIA want to work with the Japanese industry
… think that Japan has a lot of things that could be influential
… have been in a lot of discussions with them
… bridging the W3C publishing activities and the Thorium and LCP and the accessibility activities
… give more in details about how we will collaborate together
… intending to bring back the outcomes to publishing@W3C
… between Europe and Japan collaboration should be transparent to rest of world

Makoto and Daihei: asked about the translated version of the LIA's report about accessibility
… Makoto has been in discussion with Cristina and collaboration with LIA and training activities and publisher implementation
… for the publishers to implement the accessibility
… recommendations from the European Commission

EPUB Reading System Bug GitHub Repo

liisamk: we put this repo together, and started to collect some stuff
… don't have much in the repo yet
… please take a look and let us know what you need to put bugs in
… make sure that there are labels for all the reading systems you might need

Daihei: there are so many reading systems and bugs to be shared

Shinya: this github for the Japanese market, reading system development is stable and not big feedback

liisamk: if you don't have open bugs, there's nothing to put in
… we've seen a lot of bugs with a particular partner in the US
… if things are stable, that's great!
… we could set up templates in Japanese, too

Discuss goals/ideas for guest presentations

Daihei: we have opened this discussion and want to have more open discussion about digital publishing
… first presentation was Thorium and the accessibility that it supports
… we have a list of possible guest speakers and ideas
… question of what people want these speakers to do and what people want to hear about
… want to avoid this to be marketing
… presentation should be 10 minutes and 10 minutes of QA
… presentation can be slides or videos and should be relevant to the work
… no self-promotion, spam
… will be recorded so that it can be shared with others in the PBG
… will not be shared outside the group
… would like to invite guests like the list that is in the invite
… M&E co-chairs to talk about visual materials and the relationship to publishing

dauwhe: question about why to share with just the business group

Daihei: agree- no reason to make it PBG only

liisamk: I agree with Dave; we should make sure that people understand that things are available through the minutes

liisamk: agree that it should be made clear that it is as public as anything we post and should be available

Daihei: AR, VR may come into publishing sometime soon and Web XR might be interesting
… also the WOT is working to standardize all kinds of smart technologies and it might be interesting
… lots of discussions amongst the hardware folks and discussions should be had with content people
… WOT became a recommendation from W3C in April
… intention to get recommendations from people to invite and please think of people broader than our members who might join in to present

schedule over summer

Daihei: June 23rd NA/Europe July 7th/8th NA/Asia July 21st NA/Europe August 4th/5th NA/Asia August 18th NA/Europe
… we will extend activities in the fall
… thanks to North American participation tonight!

Daihei: any topics to discuss?

<wendyreid> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌epub-rs-bugs

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌epub-rs-bugs

jyoshii: is organizing a seminar for Japan in a month or 2 months and would like to include what we did for the digital publishing summit
… to coordinate with APL

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