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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

16 Apr 2020

Agenda

Attendees

Present
addison, atsushi, fuqiao, fsasaki, Bert, richard, JcK
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison

Contents


trackbot, prepare teleconference

<agendabot> clear agenda

<scribe> scribenick: addison

Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-886?

<trackbot> action-886 -- Felix Sasaki to Create github issue to discuss rdf bcp47 issue in i18n-discuss repo -- due 2020-04-16 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/886

close action-886

<trackbot> Closed action-886.

felix: should discuss whether to invite people to respond to this

action-887

<trackbot> action-887 -- Fuqiao Xue to Request a slot to discuss generic font family rules in next css virtual f2f -- due 2020-04-16 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/887

close action-887

<trackbot> Closed action-887.

Info Share

fuqiao: font-fingerprinting...

<xfq> https://github.com/w3cping/font-anti-fingerprinting

<xfq> https://github.com/w3cping/font-fp-protection-browser-hinting

fuqiao: there are 3 proposals on preventing by default

<xfq> https://github.com/tabatkins/proposal-local-font-access

fuqiao: links here
... encourage people to read after the meeting
... provide feedback

addison: will they discuss before our next telecon?

fuqiao: not in their agenda for next week yet

<scribe> ACTION: addison: remind WG to read font fingerprinting proposals for next telecon

<trackbot> Created ACTION-888 - Remind wg to read font fingerprinting proposals for next telecon [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-04-23].

RADAR Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2020AprJun/0021.html

review of changes to HTML by 22 May

<scribe> ACTION: addison: add HTML to review radar, respond to xiaoqian

<trackbot> Created ACTION-889 - Add html to review radar, respond to xiaoqian [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-04-23].

Issue 871 (Unicode normalization)

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/871

richard: my recollection was that unicode normalization was only part of it
... talking about identifiers or general text

addison: it's a prohibition of any normalizatio, but example is for cue IDs

richard: add a short para "by the way, rules are different for ids vs. normal text, please clarify what this pertains to"

addison: ok
... do we want to write some canned specdev text for groups to use?
... would we republish charmod, add to specdev, or both?

<scribe> ACTION: addison: propose a draft of "health warning" text for specdev

<trackbot> Created ACTION-890 - Propose a draft of "health warning" text for specdev [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-04-23].

addison: forward with additional para richard proposed?

<xfq> +1

<Bert> +1

richard: +1

<fsasaki> +1

<scribe> ACTION: addison: forward comment in issue 871

<trackbot> Created ACTION-891 - Forward comment in issue 871 [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-04-23].

Locale scope proposal discussion

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/LocaleScopeProposal20200408

jck: 2nd para bothers me because of cldr and ecma402

richard: "encourage support over..."

<Zakim> Bert, you wanted to ask what the last sentence means ("better support for page author control")

addison: need to clarify that sentence and perhaps add an example

http://www.org/TR/ltli

<fsasaki> +1 to revising the document

<Bert> +1, with the comments we heard today

<atsushi> +1

<JcK> +1, yes

+1

<xfq> +1

<r12a> +1

Issues Resolution

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Mar/0005.html

addison: propose we close all in the "close" list

atsushi: summary 3 is propose to close also

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/400

unraised issue

RESOLUTION: close #400

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/473

https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1789

atsushi: rejected by css

richard: don't think I'll win that argument
... it's a "needs resolution" issue, so should reply

<scribe> ACTION: richard: reply to issue 473 (css issue 1789) as part of closing

<trackbot> Created ACTION-892 - Reply to issue 473 (css issue 1789) as part of closing [on Richard Ishida - due 2020-04-23].

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/508

https://github.com/w3c/dnt/issues/62

atsushi: think "needs resolution" is our misunderstanding

<JcK> @richard: For the record, I think you are right -- decimal values should either be discouraged in these contexts or more precisely specified. But I agree that you (and we) are going to lose the argument

<atsushi> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5234#page-13

<scribe> ACTION: addison: close dnt issue 62 (our 508) with a comment

<trackbot> Created ACTION-893 - Close dnt issue 62 (our 508) with a comment [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-04-23].

we'll start next time with sumary section 2

AOB?

atsushi: simple-ruby in jlreq
... made update to japanese version
... expect to close discussion in 1 week or so

richard: wanted to mention

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: add HTML to review radar, respond to xiaoqian
[NEW] ACTION: addison: close dnt issue 62 (our 508) with a comment
[NEW] ACTION: addison: forward comment in issue 871
[NEW] ACTION: addison: propose a draft of "health warning" text for specdev
[NEW] ACTION: addison: remind WG to read font fingerprinting proposals for next telecon
[NEW] ACTION: richard: reply to issue 473 (css issue 1789) as part of closing
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. close #400
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