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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

02 Apr 2020

Agenda

Attendees

Present
addison, atsushi, fuqiao, richard, Bert, JcK, David_Clarke, fsasaki
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison

Contents


trackbot, prepare teleconference

<agendabot> clear agenda

Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-879?

<trackbot> action-879 -- Addison Phillips to Remind wg to review rules for simple placement of ruby for next week's telecon -- due 2020-04-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/879

close action-879

<trackbot> Closed action-879.

action-880?

<trackbot> action-880 -- Richard Ishida to Ask florian about splitting the accessibility material from "rules for simple..." in prep for taking doc to note -- due 2020-04-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/880

richard: did do, but no response yet

<xfq> For action-878, I suggest that we close this for now, since the future of the publishing groups seem to be uncertain. I can pick that up in the future.

richard: got a response from Kida-san

close action-878

<trackbot> Closed action-878.

reopen action-878

<trackbot> Re-opened action-878.

close action-880

<trackbot> Closed action-880.

action-882?

<trackbot> action-882 -- Addison Phillips to Reply to webvtt issue 256 (our issue 8) -- due 2020-04-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/882

close action-882

<trackbot> Closed action-882.

action-883?

<trackbot> action-883 -- Addison Phillips to Open issue 79 against media-streams noting that we're just housekeeping the previous issue -- due 2020-04-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/883

close action-883

<trackbot> Closed action-883.

Info Share

richard: if you're interested in syriac or syrian neo aramaic
... I've been developing stuff and pickers that explain how they work
... will put links here:

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/scripts/#scriptnotes for Syriac, Assyrian Neo-Aramaic, and Turoyo

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/pickers/

xfq: about action-878, inclined to close because won't progress in a few months
... cg chairs already know this email

action-878?

<trackbot> action-878 -- Fuqiao Xue to Refile issue 195 against the new community group after cg is created (depends on epub3 charter) -- due 2020-04-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/878

<xfq> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/195

<xfq> https://github.com/w3c/dpub-pagination/issues/4

<xfq> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2020JanMar/0104.html

xfq: css priorities produced by close ig
... sent email asking if will continue to develop doc
... and ivan replied that thinks doc is closed
... but CG can pick up maybe

close action-878

<trackbot> Closed action-878.

addison: don't need to do anything about ruby in epub until they produce a spec, right?
... objections to close (none heard)

RESOLUTION: close issue 195

RADAR Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/871

<scribe> ACTION: addison: revise comment in issue 871 for consideration next week

<trackbot> Created ACTION-884 - Revise comment in issue 871 for consideration next week [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-04-09].

Simple-Ruby document discussion

https://w3c.github.io/jlreq/docs/simple-ruby/index.html

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Asimple-ruby

Bert: have a few comment
... think it would be helpful to start with a couple lines about what ruby is, a couple lines and link to somewhere
... surprised to see some sentences that say "I..."
... noticed first image that explains 3 types of ruby is cut off

richard/addison: doesn't seem to happen to us?

Bert: could be my fonts
... in intro mentions in tradition of hand-edited changes to make things work
... possible even if using these rules, allow designer to override certain settings by hand?

richard: possible with CSS?

Bert: what I'm hoping
... text is set on a grid with letters aligning vertical and horizontal, what happens then

richard: it's a special kind of grid, jlreq explains

<atsushi> https://w3c.github.io/jlreq/images/img1_3.png

<Bert> (The text being cut in figure 1 is indeed due to my browser's minimum font size setting.)

(discussion of alternate teleconferencing tools)

Issues Resolution

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Mar/0004.html

<xfq> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/190

<atsushi> (xfq, sorry haven't get time to reply on your reply...)

xfq: taken over by json-ld, spec is a rec now

<scribe> ACTION: fsasaki: investigate if any more work needs doing in RDF for language and direction metadata

<trackbot> Created ACTION-885 - Investigate if any more work needs doing in rdf for language and direction metadata [on Felix Sasaki - due 2020-04-09].

RESOLUTION: close issue 190

<xfq> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/192

richard: understand that RDF folks want URLs to reference things
... how would one approach the combinatorial problem of BCP47

felix: provide URLs for subtags, here's a language tag, use a blank node to group URLs for subtags

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/192

<xfq> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/196

xfq: ivan sked richard to update some tests

richard: vaguely remember doing something, recommend we close

RESOLUTION: close issue 196

richard: had a thought for dealing with long lists, might be useful to put the i18n WG person who raised the issue or last person assigned at the end
... might be useful to see the ones we're individually responsible for first

atsushi: putting names of WG member?

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: revise comment in issue 871 for consideration next week
[NEW] ACTION: fsasaki: investigate if any more work needs doing in RDF for language and direction metadata
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. close issue 195
  2. close issue 190
  3. close issue 196
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