W3C

- DRAFT -

WoT PlugFest/Testing

01 Apr 2020

Attendees

Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kuniihko_Touura, Michael_McCool, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
Takahisa_Suzuki
Chair
McCool
Scribe
kaz

Contents


<scribe> scribenick: kaz

Review minutes

Mar-25 minutes

McCool: look good
... any comments/objections?

(none)

McCool: approved

node-wot

Ege: talking with Daniel

McCool: discussion about supporting people
... maybe there are user grouups of node-wot outside W3C
... the question is what would be the right way?

Daniel: not sure
... not so familiar with the whole Eclipse organization procedure
... either way is fine

McCool: precident of W3C is that W3C doesn't usually do user support
... CGs are also for standardization
... so would be not usual to create a new CG for node-wot user support
... some kind of user group within the Eclipse side?

Daniel: not really sure
... withing the W3C, there are some activities for browser conpliance

McCool: could justify "node-wot" as a test tool for WoT possibly
... but might be out of W3C's scope
... even though node-wot is a reference implementation so far
... would make a room for other possible implementations
... developer outreach is important
... including Mozilla, EdgeX, etc.
... we could do a meeting for a CG forcused on node-wot for a while
... make sense?

Daniel: yes

McCool: also we need someone to take the lead
... do you think you could do, Daniel?
... or could volunteer somebody else?

Daniel: would talk with Ege

McCool: having two people would make sense

Kaz: in any case, we should clarify our need/requirements for this work

McCool: yeah
... including better documentation

Kaz: agree
... discussion about the liaison side during the marketing call
... and possible technical issues during this testing call

Daniel: possibly a general developer slot during this testing call?

McCool: think that's a different topic from the scope of this call

Ege: what about having regular tutorial session, e.g., for 10 mins?

McCool: would suggest you (Ege and Daniel) create an issue in WoT marketing call
... to focus on developer outreach

Ege: including Python engineers?

McCool: possibly
... please create an issue

Ege: about developer outreach?

McCool: yeah, developig outreach for developers
... anything else about this?

(none)

Virtual PlugFest

McCool: let's discuss date and time
... now the meeting in June will be definitely a virtual one
... how to organize it?
... we would not have sessions during the weekend
... make sense?
... should document that point?
... (goes to the Helsinki wiki)

Helsinki wiki

McCool: (adds notes to the wiki)
... (also adds some more edits)
... then schedule topics
... netorking
... including software
... then documentation
... and scheule
... any other general points?

Daniel: topics on semantics
... maybe part of use cases?

McCool: the point here is which topics to be covered under some of the sections?
... (adds an additional general category for "use cases")
... any particular ideas here?

Daniel: semantic extensions?

Kaz: in that case, maybe it would be better to add sub categories to those three topics here
... e.g., "industry-viewpoint:" for media and streaming

McCool: how about adding "business" to "media and streaming"
... and "research" to the others

Kaz: that's fine :)

McCool: however, would get initial ideas as the starting point

Kaz: adding categorization later is also fine then

McCool: proposed schedule for logitics setting
... 2-week VPN is up
... participants commit to having all devices online all week
... light meeting schedule: 1h everyay to resolve issues (from the plugfest effort)
... people work offline of have 1:1 meetings to test (smaller) pairs of devices
... end we gather all test data and create report
... regarding the dates
... we originally wantd to do the plugfest on 6-7 June
... but that wouldn't make sense for a virtual one
... so should change the dates
... proposal:
... May 27-June 8: VPN set up
... June 4-8: Virtual PlugFest
... June 11-15: VIrtual F2F

Daniel: wonder about 4 days PlugFest

McCool: have to worry about synching up for 1 hour

Daniel: somehow spread up during the week

Kaz: we should avoid weekend, shouldn't we?

McCool: was looking at May instead of June...
... let me fix the proposal
... May 25-June 5: VPN is up
... btw, given the problems with the Coronavirus situation, who would have difficulty with visiting your labs/companies?

Ege: not sure at the moment, but if we have VPN connection, maybe there will not be big issues

McCool: kind of concerned about Japanese companies, etc.
... we should ask people's sitiation
... if we can just do small things, let's go for it
... don't have to includ fancy devices this time

[[
Dates:
May 25 - June 5: plugfest Virtual LAN is up
June 1-5: Virtual Plugfest
June 8-12: Virtual F2F
]]

McCool: can we create a doodle to pick a good time?
... best overwrapping times for all

Kaz: can create one if everybody is ok with this basic schedule

McCool: let's do a doodle then

Kaz: ok

<scribe> ACTION: kaz to create a doodle to pick good times based on the basic weekly schedule on the Helsinki wiki

McCool: let's discuss further points next week

Ege: btw, I've just created an issue for wot-marketing

<Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/52

McCool: (adds that to today's agenda for record)

[adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: kaz to create a doodle to pick good times based on the basic weekly schedule on the Helsinki wiki
 

Summary of Resolutions

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