W3C

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WoT-IG/WG

04 Mar 2020

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Dave_Raggett, Johannes_Soega, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Taki_Kamiya, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Daniel_Peintner, Zoltan_Kis
Regrets
Ege_Korkan
Chair
Sebastian, McCool
Scribe
McCool, kaz

Contents


<kaz> scribenick: McCool

Guests

Sebastian: BSH; Johannes Soega

Johannes: introduction
... I am working with BSH, strategy dept; for connected products and services
... have iot-enabled devices; more connected devices in future, need to look at standards
... looking into WoT after contacting Sebastian

Sebastian: Welcome!

Kaz: procedural note; BSH/Johannes needs to be aware of patent policy

<kaz> W3C Patent Policy

<kaz> PP FAQ

Sebastian: yes; have reviewed; discussion is public; if becomes part of spec, will need to be royalty-free

Kaz: although today's discussion should not be technical :)

Minutes from last meeting

<kaz> Feb-26 minutes

Sebastian: reviews minutes at https://www.w3.org/2020/02/26-wot-minutes.html
... any objections to making minutes public?
... no objections; will make public

Quick updates

Sebastian: building IoT conference; gave presentation on WoT
... shared slides in wot member list; see email
... also did a live survey about who had heard of WoT
... positive feedback on talk, several were considering joining
... will discuss further in marketing call, including numbers, etc

next, singapore poc

Singaprore Govtech PoC/Testbed

<inserted> scribenick: kaz

McCool: discussion on security infrastructure
... there was some logistics issue as well
... US Daylight Saving Time will start next week
... but we'd like to stick with the current time in Singapore
... will allocate a new WebEx for that
... also had discussion how to update node-wot for OAuth authentication
... would make a PR for TD for that purpose
... wondering who could work on implementation
... different people with different rights

Koster: do we need to have our own specification?

McCool: we'll work on OAuth for TD

Koster: TLS stuff is not really in scope

McCool: we need to document node-wot for Proof-of-concept
... provisioning using node-wot

Sebastian: we have OAuth in the spec but should clarify the process flow?

McCool: yeah, need to clarify the code flow
... would have all the flow for OAuth2
... need documentation about node-wot as well
... related to the tutorial session during the online f2f next week
... need help from the node-wot experts

<inserted> scribenick: McCool

McCool: had discussion with security architecture
... need to look at improving the security implementation in node-wot

Lagally: what also came up was how to deal with streaming
... eg video streams and web sockets
... at one point we need to assess how much testability we can guarantee
... for example, for video codecs, consider all the different kinds of codecs
... it's unreasonable to have testing all those in scope

Sebastian: I think we probably we should set up a separate call on that

McCool: please join govtech call if possible

Kaz: we should use govtech call to extract requirements; we should discuss the details in other calls

Lagally: a discussion that should happen in architecture
... we have some use cases to discuss; these should be written up as well

Connexus/EdgeX

<inserted> scribenick: kaz

McCool: working on retail use cases
... including IoT orchestration
... integrating WoT directory as well
... take the requirements first like the Singapore discussion

Lagally: note that David and I have been working on some initial use case

McCool: ok
... have to look into what is done so far

<inserted> scribenick: McCool

McCool: probably just the tip of the iceberg at this point; more to come

REC transition

Sebastian: voting results are in the agenda; 17+1 for arch, 17 for TD

<inserted> scribenick: kaz

McCool: suggest we add more clarifications for use case descriptions
... but we've been working on new use cases for v2
... should get back to them and explain the situation

<inserted> scribenick: McCool

McCool: can Lagally reach out to the commentor on the use case?

Lagally: yes, I can do that; via email

Press release

Sebastian: PR from mm
... will ask marcomm to review; others should look at too
... discuss marketing call

<kaz> McCool: two things remaining within the proposed press release draft

McCool: need quote; need to update figure

Lagally: working on figure

Sebastian: testimonials?

Lagally: working on it

McCool: working on it

Sebastian: deadline is tomorrow
... ... well, not really, but sooner is better

Architecture summary (Lagally may have to leave)

Lagally: looked at use cases, now have govtech and connexus on the table

Press release again

Sebastian: will discuss in marketing call tomorrow, hopefully can get someone from marcomm

Virtual F2F

Sebastian: so... cancellation of march f2f was probably a good thing in the end...
... but we need to finalize the virtual f2f plans
... but we were requested to give a node-wot tutorial
... should allocate a session to give a tutorial on node-wot
... (reviews the current schedule)

<kaz> Virtual F2F draft agenda

Sebastian: good to have tutorial... when
... is anyone going to IETF?
... it looks like T2TRG workshop will be cancelled, so

Koster: I'm cancelling my IETF trip as well
... this week is also a virtual F2F for OCF
... it's virtual all over the place now

Sebastian: suggest that chairs come up with a concrete plan

McCool: also task forces need to fill in some details

Helsinki F2F

McCool: plan is still to have it at that point
... please do update your registrations as necessary, though

TPAC

<kaz> message on the Chairs list (Member-only)

McCool: want to know if we have support from the members to open the plenary day to developers
... any objections?
... hearing none... I'll say we support this

Scripting TF

Zoltan: looked at error handling
... want to factor out the algorithm in the protocol binding
... there are also some small inconsistencies to fix

Sebastian: so what is the plan?

Zoltan: a lot of errors are exposed in different ways
... need to worry about mapping to JS errors, controlling detail for security, etc
... ongoing work, small changes right now
... new issue about discovery; current scope is larger
... but that will mainly be discussed in the discovery call

Security TF

McCool: discussed reorg, end-to-end security

Discovery TF

<inserted> thing-directory Sebastian mentions Fraunhofer's project on Thing directory

<sebastian> https://github.com/linksmart/thing-directory

McCool: repo reorg, semantic discovery, directorys like DID and CoRE RD
... need to index and reach out to authors of related projects

Testing

McCool: reorg... still pending

Marketing

McCool: worked on press release
... then github crashed...
... but recreated PR

TD

Taki: PR 880 coap-content format approved; got a number, need to merge for REC
... issue 851 closed
... proposed REC points to a particular URI for implementation report; for next version will use a different URI
... related, we need to discuss who we should credit in the implementation report
... new issue, 882
... will discuss in this week's TD call
... 848, and 842
... read multiple properties; discussion is still ongoing
... 842, there is a bug in javascript of document
... we fixed it in the REC, but need to fix in the master

Binding

Sebastian: no discussion last week

AOB

Kaz: one note, the presentation sent around by sebastian was too big to be distributed
... so I'll archive it and send around a link

Sebastian: ok

<kaz> [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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