Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

23 Jan 2020



Bert, JcK, addison, r12a, Atsushi
Addison Phillips


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Agenda and Minutes

Action Items



<trackbot> action-851 -- Richard Ishida to Review ttml issues found in request issue 86 and send findings by next week -- due 2020-01-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/851

close action-851

<trackbot> Closed action-851.

action-852: \

<trackbot> action-852 -- Addison Phillips to Send an email to chairs announcing new review request process (pending richard's ping) -- due 2020-01-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/852

close action-852

<trackbot> Closed action-852.

Info Share

richard: the 15th of january msft released the new Edge browser using blink engine
... puts me in a quandry about test results
... have been working on interactive/exploratory tests
... changed a bit over last week
... bert mentioned not putting the info in the URL
... wanted to do it

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-Text-alignment-&-justification

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-Styling-initials

richard: also script pages related to test pages

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/typography/

richard: so scripts for each style

RADAR and Active Work Review


TTML2, Screencapture comments review

bert: (about screen capture)
... methods can return optionally a human readable string

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/842

atsushi: it's part of a promise, so visible to user agent

addison: maybe not screencapture's fault but actually a limit of promise and exception

<atsushi_> https://tc39.es/ecma262/#sec-promise.reject

Bert: that's how exceptions work

addison: need larger meta comment?

RESOLUTION: accept issue 842

addison: moving screen capture to awaiting comment resolution

TTML2 comments

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/#ttml


<atsushi_> yes!

richard: 2nd edition, very close to publishing (CR)
... if any serious issues, let's close them with recycle

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/839

atsushi: there are plans for 3rd edition/ttml3, so can take it then

<atsushi_> https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/milestone/8

richard: proposal for 839 is to send with extra wording

addison: what does line-break-uax14 actually mean?
... why is uax14 in the name? it also seems underspecified



<r12a> ok to send

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/837

<r12a> ok to send


When applied to a span element (or anonymous span), the computed value of this property, in combination with the computed value of the tts:unicodeBidi style property, determines the directionality of a bidirectional embedding or override as specified by [UAX9], ยง4.3, Higher Level Protocol HL3.

If a computed value of the property associated with this attribute is not supported, then a presentation processor must use the value ltr.

addison: doesn't say it's the default, only if the value is unsupported (e.g. misspelled); also doesn't say you can sniff

<r12a> "If a computed value of the property associated with this attribute is not supported, then a presentation processor must use the value ltr."

<r12a> addison: let's word this recommendation a little more strongly

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/835

richard: shows the example is embed rather than isolate

addison: should be a defualt direction; should allow sniffing; and should <span> isolate by default?

<r12a> trackbot, end meeting

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

  1. accept issue 842
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