<janina> Some kind of Webex issue here ...
<Matthew_Atkinson> Aha, now I think I know to what issue you're referring, Janina :-).
<Matthew_Atkinson> (Is it the dial-in number?)
<janina> I'm still unable to get in on Webex ...
<janina> Looks like we're all unable audio ...
<christos_> present
<Matthew_Atkinson> Hmmm, I can't seem to join via the web-app either, and I already tried the phone line and the meeting number was rejected.
<janina> I've ping'd Michael ...
<christos_> can I pls have the webex link
<Matthew_Atkinson> I'm in now. If this web-app works it'll be good, as the sound quality is much better than the phone line (I tried the web-app last year, and had issues, but maybe it's better now).
<janina> Try again, folks. Some of us are now getting in
<scribe> scribe: becka11y
<christos_> thank you
<christos_> I cannot access the link
<christos_> could it be that I need Manisha my CEO to approve first before I can join?
Janina: agenda a bit reordered,
put the short stuff first.
... asks for an receives no input on new agenda items or
news
Janina: Josh, Michael, and I
discuss priorities and items for APA to focus on in 2020, will
post to the list for discussion before we take up on a
call
... work on tool that we can share with other groups to help
them include a11y in there specs and such
Michael: draft charter for Web RTC
<MichaelC> Draft WebRTC charter
Michael: WG that is being rechartered; we have submitted comments on thier tech so we are interested
Janina: we have agreed to develop use cases for Web RTC 2.0; we should be receiving a review request soon
Michael: we usually ask for a liason statement from groups we want to work with
Janina: we do need to review spec wrt a11y requirements
Michael: will request liason statement where we reference use cases
Josh: glad to see a11y mentioned in charter, happy with the liason approach
Michael: didn’t find any new on
TR this week
... still have comments on verifiable creds, HTML, and ...
Janina: Verifiable credentials - working on use cases; have some coming from RQTF
Michael: think we can drop web of
things from our list; there were editorial changes that went
through our mailing list; but very complicated
... suggest having Josh look further into this
Josh: will look into but may need some support finding the correct documents
Janina: we signed off on HTML; believe I sent email to Leonie and cc’ed the list; indicated that no blocking concerns and included Matthews review
Matthew: can I self close the action for this?
Janina: yes, we can sellf close actions
Janina: we have a CfC out for personalization spec; mostly silence which is interpretted as acceptance but good to weigh in
<janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2020Jan/0000.html
Janina: wide review request; blog
post in the works to further announce; ask the wider community
that is affected by this tech for a close look before we go to
CR
... still determining if it supports a WCAG SC directly
... Rachel has proposed and removed reference to this spec in
under development for WCAG 2.2 - still up in the air; suggest
invitiing Rachel to personalization TF meeting
JF: from my perspective, trying
to write a normative SC based on a working draft is not
wise
... this is only the first module, more is needed before using
for a SC
Janina: will discuss further in
TF meeting
... heard strong advice from Leonie that pronounciation should
get into HTML sooner rather than later because we have a req.
for browser implementation to get SSML included
... group has been polishing the explainer, hope to have a CfC
soon; then we can share with WCAG to ask for their feedback as
well
... Marco H. will be at ATIA and showing off this approach and
getting buy in from AT vendors
... pronounciation has another doc. coming along. Perhaps we
need a policy that allows our task forces to publish working
drafts without requiring APA permission
... RQTF about to have CfC to publish first public WD for
XUAR
Josh: is available on raw git hack - just need to get public url of correct version
<Joshue108_> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/XAUR/xaur/index.html
Josh: raw url for correct version above
Janina: Josh will be working on a blurb for the blog; looking for comments from wider community; hope to impact the design of XAUR tech from the ground up; so provide use cases and requirements to help
<MichaelC> close action-2227
<trackbot> Closed action-2227.
<MichaelC> action-2225?
<trackbot> action-2225 -- Janina Sajka to Review webauthn level 2 https://www.w3.org/tr/webauthn-2/ -- due 2019-12-11 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2225
<MichaelC> action-2224?
<trackbot> action-2224 -- Gottfried Zimmermann to Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.2 https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.2/ -- due 2019-12-11 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2224
<Gottfried> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2020Jan/0020.html
Gottfried: looking at FPWD as compared to draft reviewed two years ago - it has improved; have added a section called WCAG implications; It is about captions and subtitles - do SC on captions and reflow and text spacing apply?
JF: think iit might have been referring to req. for US 21st century communications act or could be looking at MUAR spec;
Gottfried: they don’t have info in spec for users to modify sizes etc. but expect the user agent to provide mechanism to do that
JF: not surprised that US law isn’t referenced; good that they are referencing both WCAG and MUAR; have done a good job at exposing info for someone to dig into
<Gottfried> https://www.w3.org/TR/2019/WD-ttml-imsc1.2-20191128/#wcag-applications
Gottfried: they site and partiallly interpret the WCAG criteria - that is why I thought they should list more and make it more complete
scribe note: we are discussing TTML spec
JF: in some cases for 1.1.1 and 1.4.12 they say that WCAG “recommends” - but should say that WCAG “requires”
Gottfried: they have a new syntax for alt text - include it in metadata which seems okay but should point it out more; should have an introduction
JF: I think APA has provided that feedback for an introduction in the past
Gottfied: have we discussed the
author vs user layout
... need to provide options for where the text is presented -
not always good to have the text near the person speaking -
user may need to change location as well as presentation
Janina: I believe that concept is in the MAUR
JF: from an A11y perspective we
want user to be able to place or modify caption files any way
they want; I don’t think there is anything in TTML that forbids
that; believes it is more of a user agent req.
... not sure that modification belongs in TTML spec
Gottfried: agree but should add a note to authors that the layout/presentation might be modified
JF: believe that support is in the MAUR - maybe go to EO and request blog post to get into details
Gottfied: will write this up and share with group for further discussion
Michael: 2223 josh to review GPU for the web
<MichaelC> action-2223?
<trackbot> action-2223 -- Joshue O Connor to Review gpu for the web draft charter https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/grorg/admin/blob/wg-charter-draft/wg-charter.html -- due 2019-12-11 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2223
<MichaelC> action-2222
<trackbot> action-2222 -- Matthew Atkinson to Review gpu for the web draft charter https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/grorg/admin/blob/wg-charter-draft/wg-charter.html -- due 2019-12-11 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2222
Matthew: feel that this is very low level, graphical rendering and GPU compilation; draft spec does not mention a11y but charter does suggest that they are thinking about it
<MichaelC> action-2222: very low level, no need to track
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2222 Review gpu for the web draft charter https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/grorg/admin/blob/wg-charter-draft/wg-charter.html.
Matthew: will summarize in an emai
<MichaelC> close action-2222
<trackbot> Closed action-2222.
<MichaelC> close action-2223
<trackbot> Closed action-2223.
<MichaelC> close action-2221
<trackbot> Closed action-2221.
Janina: is under control
<MichaelC> action-2221?
<trackbot> action-2221 -- Janina Sajka to Review decentralized identifiers (dids) v1.0 https://www.w3.org/tr/did-core/ -- due 2019-12-11 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2221
<MichaelC> action-2148?
<trackbot> action-2148 -- Janina Sajka to Review web of things (wot) scripting api -- due 2019-11-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2148
Janina: will leave open
<MichaelC> action-2220?
<trackbot> action-2220 -- Janina Sajka to Add accessible receipting to the accessibility statement for payments -- due 2019-11-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2220
Michael: is tied to payment request api
Janina: will want to look at
community groups for next week
... Lisa and Rachel think an annotated text track would be
useful to COGA
JF: basically asking for the audio description as text track as text
Janina: we have that mechanism in HTML you can create audio description as text track
JF: but is not a WCAG requirement
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