<scribe> scribe: janina
<jeanne> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/People_Skills_and_Resources
js: Have had several people sign
up, including some new people
... AG Facilitators asked for recruiting email
... Do we want to be adding more people? Are we getting ahead
of ourselves?
... We don't have a good way to bring people up to speed.
... There's not a quick start we can point people at.
sl: Suggest specific recruiting
around tests, also user needs
... Should reach out to aCT for tests. They've expressed
interest.
... Suggests just adding aCT and we'll sort out individuals
when we get there
mary_jo: Can bring it up--people have not been participating recently
sl: Whatever is smoothest. We should just not leave it all to Jeanne
Mary_Jo: Agrees
sl: Anyone to do user needs?
Mary_JO: Asks for what needs?
sl: Moving from 2.x to
Silver
... We believe some could be combined, e.g. captions for media,
but also for live stream which are essentially the same
... So we'd prefer ux background
... Asks for recommendations
js: Also been recruiting, and think we have more but just not signed up.
sl: Wanting 2 points of contact for each skill set -- should get us going
js: Notes the above is our "Welcome to Silver" doc
<jeanne> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/Welcome_to_Silver
janina: Notes that there are so, so many documents in the archive, it's hard to figure out what should be read to get up to speed
js: Agrees there's a lot of documentary history, and not all of it is helpful anylonger
Mary_Jo: Have been mostly looking
at more recent emails
... My question is what is the most current stuff? What are the
burning tasks that need doing?
sl: Jeanne tends to have wiki
front page most relevant on that
... As for skills needed, we're just getting to formulating
that
... Still to do is better project management -- this stage
done, this one in process, this one not started or assigned,
etc., etc
js: I've put in some high levels Conformance; Content -- but even that's not that helpful, sl: Notes janina offered to help with github
Mary_Jo: Not sure how organized; or even where it is
sl: We're open to starting from scratch because our use has been so minimal
js: Well, there's some!
<Lauriat> http://github.com/w3c/silver/
js: github is an a11y challenge
particularly for coga people
... So concerned about exclusively moving to github
sl: So thinking of github for
project management so far
... We'll respond if someone sends email and do the github
update for them
Mary_Jo: Notes there are silver subgroups?
sl: Two main groups: Confrmance;
and Content Creation
... == two Tuesday calls
... We decided on parallel tracks because progress in one helps
move the other forward -- from both perspectives
Mary_Jo: Asks about ttelecons
sl: Tuesday Content telecon AM
Boston; Conformance PM Boston
... Friday is omnibus Silver call
... Some people participate in both tracks
js: Suggestions or edits welcome! It's a wiki!
js: Wanted to note responses so far
<Chuck> Looks like I CAN JOIN! Just learned a few minutes ago.
<Chuck> Jeanne: My takeaway is we have more than 10 that want to attend. majority of responses were for mon and tue.
<Lauriat> Hurray, Chuck!
js: More than 10 to attend so far; Majority prefer Monday and Tuesday
mc: Need a sponsor
sl: Working that out
pk: Notes Amazon is booking
suites and exspects we'll have a room, but don't want to
finalize that until it's actually booked
... It is my expectation
js: Looks like 10-12 people
pk: That's fine.
... Is it 8 hours for two days?
js: yes
... Request for joint from coga late Tuesday
pk: We usually make CART provisions. Do we need that for these sessions?
sl: Sure would help with scribing.
janina: Suggests deaf and hard of hearing participation would be a win
js: Asks whether Sean has contacts in that community?
pk: Would be concerned to open for just one meeting if we didn't have a continuation plan
js: Excellent point
... Also a chicken & egg problem. If we can demonstrate the
need we can work with W3C to get the support
pk: If we're not tied to Webex, there are computer driven captions builtin on Go to Meeting and Skype
janina: Notes Zoom is th big buz for a11y
js: Zoom supports auto caption;
not sure Skype does
... Also notes language barrier
sl: We have i18n participation; rapid English is a problem
js: Thanks Peter and thanks for the question as well
<Lauriat> Issues Status re Conformance Challenges document: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-silver/2019Dec/0014.html
janina: Will send out chaser email asking people to identify any open issues that should be more content for FPWD
js: Clear words met Thursday and
did some testing refinements--we'd like your thoughts
... Please look at the rubric and provide feedback
<jeanne> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TOFmSmTuPz6LbNV4nFf-0g_Wwx1k8TwfxzcKzNL8i_Y/edit
js: Remaining content is
confusing and not ready yet
... Just rubric for now
... Part 2: Made list of 17 items to check
... Discussed how to structure; came up with three
approaches
... Professional testers; internal style guide; ...
... Some orgs will have different clear words needs
... And a rubric for clear words
... This is our second pass at a rubric
<jeanne> Substantially: A significant effort has been made and most exceptions improve clarity.
<jeanne> Partially: An effort has been made, but there is room for substantial improvement.
<jeanne> LImited: Inconsistent effort or no effort
js: Should substantially meet; partly
<Kim_D> 3rd is "limited"
js: also noted which conditions
don't meet
... Using active voice -- how does one count 80% active voice
sentences
... Avoid metaphor or sarcasm
<PeterKorn> Regrets for the remainder of the meeting - I need to leave a few minutes early.
<Lauriat> Thanks for joining, Peter!
kim: Asks whether the dictionary contains medical terms
js: No, the W3C disctionary is web elated technical terms
kim: Wonders what "partially" means? Can we quantify that better?
js: That's what we're working
on.
... It's also a question of how one counts
chuck: Update on contrast
...
... Determined some of Andy's analysis won't be ready for any
current draft
... So we backed off a bit to use what's already been
reviewed
js: Does Andy believe he'll be able to come up with a formula
chuck: Yes, well vetted he says, and an actual formula
js: Good news that it's progressing
sl: Last minute updates,
anyone?
... Thanks all!
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