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DXWG Plenary

<PWinstanley> proposed: accept minutes https://‌www.w3.org/‌2019/‌11/‌05-dxwg-minutes

admin

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<AndreaPerego> +1

<kcoyle> +1

<roba> +1

<DaveBrowning> +1

<PWinstanley> +1

Resolved: accept minutes https://‌www.w3.org/‌2019/‌11/‌05-dxwg-minutes

DCAT

PWinstanley: no update. Philippe has been ill.
… Other thing we need to think about: publication and reporting when DCAT becomes REC
… a lot of people have helped us with comments
… we could send them an email updating them on the story
… I could draft a mail.
…
… We can also write a W3C blog. I can start a draft.

<AndreaPerego> Thanks, PWinstanley.

PWinstanley: But I would welcome the contributions of others.

<DaveBrowning> Happy to help polish...

PWinstanley: the journey is also worth documenting
… Maybe Andrea would be up to give a little exposé?
… that would be a 3rd paper

AndreaPerego: this is ongoing discussion

PWinstanley: can we bring it into plenary?

AndreaPerego: one option is a technical paper providing a description of the new version
… submitting it to the ontology track of Semantic Web Journal
… Another is to describe the uptake
… We could also look at the use cases contributed
… from scientific data. Bridging gov data with scientific data.
… We're still brainstorming on the topic.

PWinstanley: maybe a question for dsr : is there any W3C perspective on this?

dsr: I think it's ok to go ahead
… I'll let you know if there's an issue

kcoyle: would any of this be compatible with writing a Primer?

PWinstanley: chunks could be used for a Primer
… but there might be specific audience that need a view more diluted on the technical aspect and more use cases material, which could be for a Primer

AndreaPerego: the Primer could be one of the work items for the follow-up.
… especially for describing on how to use the new elements.

PWinstanley: We could look at a wide range of audiences. E.g. FAIR.

re-charter

PWinstanley: no update from Philippe

<roba> +1 to split github and include UCR as a separate common doc

PWinstanley: any thinking about organizing our space?

<PWinstanley> antoine: I think that everything should be kept in the same github - it isn't better, but the overhead of splitting might not be workthwhile - the structure needs thought

<PWinstanley> ... so let's leave it until we are back to working on v3 etc

roba: I'm ok leaving it like this. My issue would be that we have a legacy of issues that we can't really resolve
… we should have another way of sorting discussions
… I would hope the splitting up would allow to re-calibrate the github usage.

<PWinstanley> antoine: I think I agree with roba on some issues, but this is the sort of thing that will help us better identify what we need. At some point soon we need to go through the outstanding issues and close in an appropriate way the ones we can't resolve

PWinstanley: we should continue discussing on coming calls

Conneg

roba: we met to confirm what needs to be done
… a couple of issues (improvements) can be handled
… I've put PRs for it
… There's a couple of issues that could be left for discussion for PWD and flagged as such
… nick and I are ok with it
… When would be the next deadline for the process?

PWinstanley: December?

roba: we can go WD as soon as we can get a vote
… Things have not substantially changed. It's rather issues like terminology

PWinstanley: we've got to navigate through thanksgiving and Xmas
… I can set it up as soon as you feel it's ok for the Conneg group

roba: next week would be good

PROF

PWinstanley: and the Profiles Guidance document

roba: we had discussed it and there was an obvious way for it to be a formal Rec

PWinstanley: yes. Anything that could be crystalized into a document that could be helpful?

<roba> +1 to a Note - but there isnt a spec component to form a Rec

PWinstanley: it would be disappointing if our work leads to nothing

<PWinstanley> antoine: I have volunteered with Tom Baker to do this, because I think there is a future for a document for this. competing issues have also made it difficult to progress this documnt

PWinstanley: it could be things that we can continue in the re-charter period. Parts of the tidying up that we mentioned previously
… not a rec but something useful
… We still need to keep on our radar
… The ambition is lower than what we had a couple of years back

roba: I'm still keen to help but we have other priorities indeed
… like the functional aspects (Conneg) and the formalism (PROF)

<PWinstanley> antoine: I've seen email from the ODRL group who have created an approach for profiles, and they are reconsidering what they wrote previously - there is a hint that guidance is needed

roba: nick has followed it. It seems PROF was useful for them
… it seems a good idea to follow this idea
… the DCAT group also ended with wording on the DCAT profiles that is lighter than what it could have been.

PWinstanley: there's a gap between people looking at profiles at computable resources and others who look at them as information resource at a higher level.
… We found it's a loaded term with many perspectives.
… Which is why we started to discuss about "data profiles".
… A simple classification scheme would be a very helpful step.

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<roba> +1

roba: we've started to do this with a PR, which could be used as placeholder

AOB

PWinstanley: could we have a break? Two/three weeks?

<PWinstanley> antoine: if we get news from the transition and we can vote for the conneg pwd then it is a good idea

<roba> +1

<kcoyle> +1

<PWinstanley> +1

<DaveBrowning> +1

<AndreaPerego> +1

PWinstanley: ok I can try to organize this
… Things we need to have cleared out are the bits of publicity mentioned at the beginning.
… Including the mail to contributors/commenters
… and the small blog post for W3C

<PWinstanley> antoine: does the recharter need to get through before the end of the current charter?

PW: dsr?

kcoyle: my understanding is that we have to be through W3C and it should be continguous

PWinstanley: they have had a couple of weeks to deal with this. It's in the strategy pipeline.
… Maybe I can ask dsr to ask elsewhere.
… It's on its way but we need to be sure there's no road block.