W3C

– DRAFT –
Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference

17 October 2019

Attendees

Present
LarsG, ncar, roba
Regrets
Chair
LarsG
Scribe
roba

Meeting minutes

can we reconvene in your evening?

its now 11pm here with summer time - so switching to the same time slot as the plenary on a thursday (for you) - friday for us works..

We can maybe call you via skype?

confirm agenda

+1

<ncar> +1

<LarsG> +1

Minutes from last meeting

<LarsG> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2019/‌09/‌12-dxwgcneg-minutes

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<ncar> +1

<LarsG> +1

Resolved: Approve minutes from last meeting

Open Action Items

<LarsG> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌track/‌products/‌4

<LarsG> action-193

<trackbot> action-193: Rob Atkinson to Move jmeter test suite to within w3c systems -- due 2018-09-05 -- OPEN

<LarsG> <roba> leave open

<LarsG> action-358

<trackbot> action-358: Rob Atkinson to to convene working session to co-develop common model to match link header data and alternates view requirements. -- due 2019-08-08 -- OPEN

<LarsG> can be closed since we have that data model in the spec

<LarsG> close action-358

<trackbot> Closed action-358.

<LarsG> action-362

<trackbot> action-362: Lars G. Svensson to Propose generalising syntax for the ietf doc to bypass hard requriement for token indicator -- due 2019-09-05 -- OPEN

<LarsG> This has been solved through https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌290#issuecomment-530328470

<LarsG> close action-362

<trackbot> Closed action-362.

<LarsG> action-371?

<trackbot> action-371: Lars G. Svensson to Mark http implementation as "feature-at-risk" since we don't know what ietf will say about it -- due 2019-09-19 -- OPEN

<LarsG> has been done in the doc

done - can be closed

<LarsG> close action-371

<trackbot> Closed action-371.

<LarsG> action-372?

<trackbot> action-372: Lars G. Svensson to Ping karen and tomb regarding the answer listed in https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1017#issuecomment-526164813 -- due 2019-09-19 -- OPEN

<LarsG> ping has been done

<LarsG> close action-372

<trackbot> Closed action-372.

<LarsG> action-373?

<trackbot> action-373: Rob Atkinson to Provide text for order of precedence (#505) -- due 2019-09-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<LarsG> PR has been actioned

<LarsG> close action-373

<trackbot> Closed action-373.

ncar: issue has been dealt with - ongoing discussion is about implementation in specific platforms

<LarsG> action-374?

<trackbot> action-374: Rob Atkinson to Perform final editorial changes from #575 (https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/575#issuecomment-530362099) -- due 2019-09-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW

ncar: so will put a comment and mark it due for closing

+1

<ncar> +1

<LarsG> +1

<LarsG> Issue #575 has been closed, so we can close here, too

<LarsG> close action-374

<trackbot> Closed action-374.

<LarsG> action-375?

<trackbot> action-375: Lars G. Svensson to Update changelog in ed -- due 2019-09-19 -- OPEN

<LarsG> PR has been merged, so we can close the action

<LarsG> close action-375

<trackbot> Closed action-375.

<LarsG> action-376?

<trackbot> action-376: Rob Atkinson to Create pr to resolve #1042 by showing how data and functional profiles work together -- due 2019-09-19 -- OPEN

<LarsG> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌1042

<LarsG> leave open

roba: is this useful?

ncar: yes - i need it for ckan

roba: i will generate a PR for it now pressure is off

Open Pull Requests

<LarsG> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aprofile-negotiation

<LarsG> none open

i dealt with last one this morning

Discussion about state of document v. recent WG mailing list requests

state of document

ncar: comments from riccardo - need to update document status to CR

ncar: changes requested have all been editorial in nature - no substantive issues open
… havent heard back from antoine - does model conflict with PROF? - Can now show with implementation.

Action: ncar: communicate with aisaac and/or WG to show implementation

<trackbot> Created ACTION-379 - Communicate with aisaac and/or wg to show implementation [on Nicholas Car - due 2019-10-24].

LarsG: we seem to be still aiming for Rec?

ncar: yes

LarsG: schedule-wise to aim for Rec needs to be on charter for next WG

ncar: its on the draft charter

roba: from agendas of plenary its not yet finalised

update on IETF

LarsG: no progress - will see Reuben today to see what can be done - draft is in submittable state from my perspective

ncar: has the draft been enhanced?

LarsG: little impact

roba: recent syntax catch is an improvement however.

outbound communications:

ncar: little to report.

implementations

<ncar> the pyLDAPI-based implementation is demonstrated online (incomplete) at https://‌conneg.info/‌mediatypes/‌connegp

<ncar> the implementation's code is https://‌github.com/‌nicholascar/‌mediatypes-dataset

<ncar> the interesting code is pyLDAPI: https://‌pypi.org/‌project/‌pyldapi/

<ncar> connegp utility functions: https://‌pypi.org/‌project/‌connegp/

ncar: the implementation calls out normative text and shows how they are addressed with live links

<ncar> here is the Alt Reps model in action: https://‌conneg.info/‌mediatypes?_profile=all&_mediatype=application/‌ld+json

ncar: the issue have struck - in the alt views data model - need review for the representation that avoids factorial explosiom

<ncar> does this view faithfull use the Alt Reps Data Model: https://‌conneg.info/‌mediatypes/‌object?uri=https:%2F%2Fw3id.org%2Fmediatype%2Ftext%2Fn3&_view=alternates

roba: given the HTML is not machine readable - it conveys the information validly without listing every combination separately
… too much detail to review on the fly - can you provide an email with a targetted review request

ncar: will do
… take home is it all looks implementable

roba: contract renewed at OGC so easier to find time to complete implement.

AOB

proposed: move meeting time two hours earlier

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<LarsG> +1

<ncar> +1

Resolved: move meeting time two hours earlier

LarsG: apologies for next week

start new time in 2 weeks

Summary of action items

  1. ncar: communicate with aisaac and/or WG to show implementation

Summary of resolutions

  1. Approve minutes from last meeting
  2. move meeting time two hours earlier
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by Bert Bos's scribe.perl version Mon Apr 15 13:11:59 2019 UTC, a reimplementation of David Booth's scribe.perl. See history.

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