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11:56:32 <trackbot> Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
11:56:32 <trackbot> Date: 17 October 2019
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11:57:23 <ncar> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:CNEG-Telecon2019.10.17
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12:05:43 <LarsG> present+ LarsG
12:06:01 <ncar> present+ ncar
12:06:10 <ncar> present+ roba
12:10:38 <roba> can we reconvene in your evening?
12:12:28 <roba> its now 11pm here with summer time - so switching to the same time slot as the plenary on a thursday (for you) - friday for us works..
12:12:44 <roba> We can maybe call you via skype?
12:18:27 <ncar> chair: LarsG
12:18:36 <ncar> scribe: roba
12:18:55 <LarsG> Topic: confirm agenda
12:19:02 <roba> +1
12:19:04 <ncar> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:CNEG-Telecon2019.10.17
12:19:06 <ncar> +1
12:19:07 <LarsG> +1
12:20:25 <LarsG> Topic: Minutes from last meeting
12:20:34 <LarsG> https://www.w3.org/2019/09/12-dxwgcneg-minutes
12:20:57 <roba> +1
12:21:00 <ncar> +1
12:21:07 <LarsG> +1
12:21:18 <LarsG> RESOLVED: Approve minutes from last meeting
12:21:30 <LarsG> Topic: Open Action Items
12:21:37 <LarsG> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/products/4
12:22:00 <LarsG> action-193
12:22:00 <trackbot> action-193 -- Rob Atkinson to Move jmeter test suite to within w3c systems -- due 2018-09-05 -- OPEN
12:22:00 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/193
12:22:38 <LarsG> <roba> leave open
12:22:45 <LarsG> action-358
12:22:45 <trackbot> action-358 -- Rob Atkinson to to convene working session to co-develop common model to match link header data and alternates view requirements. -- due 2019-08-08 -- OPEN
12:22:45 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/358
12:23:04 <LarsG> can be closed since we have that data model in the spec
12:23:35 <LarsG> close action-358
12:23:35 <trackbot> Closed action-358.
12:23:41 <LarsG> action-362
12:23:41 <trackbot> action-362 -- Lars G. Svensson to Propose generalising syntax for the ietf doc to bypass hard requriement for token indicator -- due 2019-09-05 -- OPEN
12:23:41 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/362
12:25:31 <LarsG> This has been solved through https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/290#issuecomment-530328470
12:25:38 <LarsG> close action-362
12:25:38 <trackbot> Closed action-362.
12:25:52 <LarsG> action-371?
12:25:52 <trackbot> action-371 -- Lars G. Svensson to Mark http implementation as "feature-at-risk" since we don't know what ietf will say about it -- due 2019-09-19 -- OPEN
12:25:52 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/371
12:26:07 <LarsG> has been done in the doc
12:26:12 <roba> done - can be closed
12:26:13 <LarsG> close action-371
12:26:13 <trackbot> Closed action-371.
12:26:38 <LarsG> action-372?
12:26:38 <trackbot> action-372 -- Lars G. Svensson to Ping karen and tomb regarding the answer listed in https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1017#issuecomment-526164813 -- due 2019-09-19 -- OPEN
12:26:38 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/372
12:27:03 <LarsG> ping has been done
12:27:09 <LarsG> close action-372
12:27:09 <trackbot> Closed action-372.
12:27:31 <LarsG> action-373?
12:27:31 <trackbot> action-373 -- Rob Atkinson to Provide text for order of precedence (#505) -- due 2019-09-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW
12:27:31 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/373
12:27:46 <LarsG> PR has been actioned
12:29:02 <LarsG> close action-373
12:29:02 <trackbot> Closed action-373.
12:30:34 <roba> ncar: issue has been dealt with - ongoing discussion is about implementation in specific platforms
12:31:14 <LarsG> action-374?
12:31:14 <trackbot> action-374 -- Rob Atkinson to Perform final editorial changes from #575 (https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/575#issuecomment-530362099) -- due 2019-09-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW
12:31:14 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/374
12:31:25 <roba> ...so will put a comment and mark it due for closing
12:31:25 <roba> +1
12:31:37 <ncar> +1
12:31:53 <LarsG> +1
12:32:35 <LarsG> Issue #575 has been closed, so we can close here, too
12:32:42 <LarsG> close action-374
12:32:43 <trackbot> Closed action-374.
12:32:55 <LarsG> action-375?
12:32:55 <trackbot> action-375 -- Lars G. Svensson to Update changelog in ed -- due 2019-09-19 -- OPEN
12:32:55 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/375
12:33:31 <LarsG> PR has been merged, so we can close the action
12:33:37 <LarsG> close action-375
12:33:38 <trackbot> Closed action-375.
12:33:55 <LarsG> action-376?
12:33:58 <trackbot> action-376 -- Rob Atkinson to Create pr to resolve #1042 by showing how data and functional profiles work together -- due 2019-09-19 -- OPEN
12:33:58 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/376
12:34:22 <LarsG> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1042
12:36:05 <LarsG> leave open
12:36:13 <roba> roba: is this useful?
12:36:23 <roba> ncar: yes - i need it for ckan
12:36:41 <roba> roba: i will generate a PR for it now pressure is off
12:37:12 <LarsG> Topic: Open Pull Requests
12:37:22 <LarsG> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aprofile-negotiation
12:37:25 <LarsG> none open
12:37:36 <roba> i dealt with last one this morning
12:37:42 <LarsG> Topic: Discussion about state of document v. recent WG mailing list requests
12:37:55 <roba> topic: state of document
12:38:18 <roba> ncar: comments from riccardo - need to update document status to CR
12:39:46 <roba> ncar: changes requested have all been editorial in nature - no substantive issues open
12:40:36 <roba> ... havent heard back from antoine - does model conflict with PROF? - Can now show with implementation.
12:42:27 <roba> ACTION ncar: communicate with aisaac and/or WG to show implementation
12:42:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-379 - Communicate with aisaac and/or wg to show implementation [on Nicholas Car - due 2019-10-24].
12:43:24 <roba> LarsG: we seem to be still aiming for Rec?
12:43:29 <roba> ncar: yes
12:44:46 <roba> LarsG: schedule-wise to aim for Rec needs to be on charter for next WG
12:45:01 <roba> ncar: its on the draft charter
12:45:20 <roba> roba: from agendas of plenary its not yet finalised
12:48:59 <roba> topic: update on IETF
12:49:48 <roba> LarsG: no progress - will see Reuben today to see what can be done - draft is in submittable state from my perspective
12:50:15 <roba> ncar: has the draft been enhanced?
12:51:11 <roba> LarsG: little impact
12:51:31 <roba> roba: recent syntax catch is an improvement however.
12:52:42 <roba> topic: outbound communications:
12:52:48 <roba> ncar: little to report.
12:52:54 <roba> topic: implementations
12:52:57 <ncar> the pyLDAPI-based implementation is demonstrated online (incomplete) at https://conneg.info/mediatypes/connegp
12:53:40 <ncar> the implementation's code is https://github.com/nicholascar/mediatypes-dataset
12:53:59 <ncar> the interesting code is pyLDAPI: https://pypi.org/project/pyldapi/
12:54:16 <ncar> connegp utility functions: https://pypi.org/project/connegp/
12:56:30 <roba> ncar: the implementation calls out normative text and shows how they are addressed with live links
12:58:05 <ncar> here is the Alt Reps model in action: https://conneg.info/mediatypes?_profile=all&_mediatype=application/ld+json
13:01:35 <roba> ncar: the issue have struck - in the alt views data model - beed review for the representation that avoids factorial explosiom
13:01:37 <ncar> doe this view faithfull use the Alt Reps Data Model: https://conneg.info/mediatypes/object?uri=https:%2F%2Fw3id.org%2Fmediatype%2Ftext%2Fn3&_view=alternates
13:01:44 <ncar> s/doe/does/
13:04:25 <roba> roba: given the HTML is not machine readable - it conveys the information validly without listing every combination separately
13:05:44 <roba> ... too much detail to review on the fly - can you provide an email with a targetted review request
13:05:47 <roba> ncar: will do
13:06:03 <roba> ... take home is it all looks implementable
13:06:48 <ncar> s/beed/need/
13:06:54 <roba> roba: contract renewed at OGC so easier to find time to complete implement.
13:07:17 <LarsG> Topic: AOB
13:07:36 <roba> proposed: move meeting time two hours earlier
13:07:37 <roba> +1
13:07:42 <LarsG> +1
13:07:54 <ncar> +1
13:08:08 <roba> resolved: move meeting time two hours earlier
13:10:10 <roba> LarsG: apologies for next week
13:10:35 <roba> start new time in 2 weeks
13:12:23 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please make logs public
13:12:37 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
13:12:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/10/17-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG
13:20:25 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
13:20:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/10/17-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG
13:21:06 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please make logs public
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