scribenick: dsr
McCool: Any additions to the agenda [no]
McCool: McCool is in Canada for the
Conexxus conference
... Gave a presentation to them yesterday. This has given us 3
new members!
McCool: Mozilla can’t come ot TPAC in person, but will instead ship hardware to McCool for their demo
Lagally: are Mozilla fully compliant to the TD spec?
McCool: not yet, but let’s not focus on that
<sebastian> here is the issue https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/850
Sebastian: only a small change would be needed for Mozilla to become compliant
Kaz: let’s talk about the details in the PlugFest call after this call given the agenda is full for this main call today
Sebastian: a new software release of the Mozilla’s gateway, which promotes the W3C Web of Things
McCool: we met with the TAG last
week, the outcome is that they won’t block us, but see their
feedback as helping us to improve our specs going forward
... They missed more user oriented use cases, i.e.
what is WoT good for
... their main recommendation was to improve the explainer for WoT
<kaz> (TAG also will update their comments on GitHub)
McCool: In respect to the PING feedback, Sam gave us the most, we can proceed, and we should expect more detailed feedback as we make further progess, it isn’t a blocking issue right now
<kaz> (regarding the TAG's comment, we've already got update to Issue 371)
<mlagally> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/371
Lagally: interoperability is a big issue (Dave Baron).
McCool: a lot of that may be
addressed by profiles
... we have a framework, but need profiles to guarantee
interoperability in certain contexts
... we need multiple profiles for the long run
... we got an agreement from
the TAG, not to block us, and indeed, we are kind of breaking
new ground in WoT
... Privacy remains a challenging area for us to
make progress on as we proceed
Kaz: we should have longer joint discussion to promote a fuller understanding
<inserted> TPAC f2f agenda
McCool: we can take input from
the people here today, and hopefully expand this next week
... any major items to put on the input list? [n]
Kaz: Japanese broadcaster, NHK, is
interested in WoT as well as media discussion
... had some discussion with the MEIG Chair about possible joint discussion on Monday
McCool: I will only be arriving on Monday, so I won’t be able to participate
Sebastian: what is the idea?
Kaz: the conclusion from the discussion is
... we don't have to have a dedicated joint session but can listen to NHK's presentation during the MEIG f2f and see their demo
... in any case, NHK will participate in the PlugFest demo on Wednesday
... also we can talk about the details on further collaboration/intefration of TV sets during our f2f on Thu/Fri
Sebastian: I will be there on Monday morning and can participate
Kaz: Thanks!
<inserted> MEIG f2f agenda
McCool: anyone able to reach out
to the JSONLD 1.1 folks to sync up?
... a joint meeting would be helpful.
Sebastian: I can ask Victor to reach out to arrange that
Kaz: please CC me when you and Victor contact the JSON-LD group so that I can help you, e.g. by talking with Ivan Herman as the staff contact for JSON-LD
Sebastian: we should talk about need for TD features …
McCool: mlagally isn’t able to be a chair, Matthias has limited availability, does anyone have any concerns with Sebastian and I being the IG chairs? [no]
<McCool> proposal: Submit current IG charter draft to W3M with the change to specify Michael McCool and Sebastian Kaebisch as co-chairs.
Sebastian: (mentions several possible additions for liaison)
<kaz> PR 846
McCool: anyone have any
objections to doing this merge? [no]
... merged
<McCool> proposal: Submit current IG charter draft to W3M
<McCool> proposal: Submit current IG charter draft at https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/charters/wot-ig-2019.html to W3M
Kaz: what about Wendy’s comment? We need to get back to her again and close the issue?
<kaz> Wendy's comment
McCool: I believe we did that already - we merged her changes and got her approval
Kaz: you mentioned a possible updated explainer document. we can work on that later and let her know about that idea.
McCool: ok
<kaz> (McCool adds a comment to issue 835: Closing issue as we believe the issues you raised have been addressed. We will take the action to add additional "explainer" information later.)
McCool: any other comments on the proposal? [no]
RESOLUTION: Submit current IG charter draft at https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/charters/wot-ig-2019.html to W3M
McCool: I’ve been chatting with
Mozilla on this
... Our f2f on Nov 13-14, and IRTF workshop afterwards
... Normally we have the plugfest before the WoT
F2F, but this would conflict with the IETF
... We still need to sort a venue ...
Kaz: I think IETF hackathon is on Nov 16-17. what would happen on 15th? WISHI?
<inserted> McCool: 15 will be WISHI
McCool: we would benefit from a joint workshop e.g. to discuss data schemas for CBOR
<McCool> proposal: to proceed with organizing the next WoT F2F at IETF106, including a joint plugfest/hackathon and T2TRG workshop
Lagally: do we have any idea of what we would do at the plugfest?
McCool: I think we should focus
on the thing directory and profiles
... we could also work with Mozilla on smart home profiles
<inserted> kaz: would clarification on the concrete date and topics
<McCool> proposal: to proceed with organizing the next WoT F2F at IETF106, including a joint plugfest/hackathon on Nov 16-17 and a T2TRG workshop on Nov 15 and two days of F2F meetings Nov 13-14
<kaz> (implies 5-day meeting: 13-14 wot-f2f, 15 WISHI, 16-17 IETF Hackathon/WoT PlugFest)
McCool: anyone feel strongly that we should add an open day?
<McCool> proposal: to proceed with organizing the next WoT F2F at IETF106, including a joint plugfest/hackathon on Nov 16-17 and a T2TRG workshop on Nov 15 and two days of F2F meetings Nov 13-14, with a possible open day on Nov 12
Kaz: I am not really sure we need an open day this time
McCool: I agree that 5 days of
meetings is long enough, but it depends on who we could meet
with
... any objections [no]
RESOLUTION: to proceed with organizing the next WoT F2F at IETF106, including a joint plugfest/hackathon on Nov 16-17 and a T2TRG workshop on Nov 15 and two days of F2F meetings Nov 13-14,, with a possible open day on Nov 12
scribenick: kaz
Kaz: will we have a PlugFest call today?
Lagally: let's have a short one
... stay on this WebEx
... in 5-min break
[adjourned]