W3C

Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

18 Jul 2019

Attendees

Present
Alistair, Anne, Wilco, KathyEng, MaryJo, Shadi
Regrets

Chair
MaryJo, Wilco
Scribe
KathyEng

Contents


Update from AG on CFC to publish as a Recommendation

shadi: update on Tuesday from MaryJo and Wilco, no questions or issues
... CFC started yesterday to transition to publish, some of +1 already
... a few editorial comments as pull requests or emails (7 pull requests)

wilco: why are there 2 CFC's?
... there's a CFC for transition to PR and a CFC for 1.0
... they are intended to be the same one

<shadi> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/398

shadi: pull request from Bruce Bailey is for boilerplate text that links in plain text. thinks it can be shortened.
... this is not a priority, suggest closing it and shadi will take this up with communication team since this applies to other specs

wilco: agree

<shadi> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/399

shadi: link to common failures in non-normative section is to layers of guidance. Bruce proposed change to "documented common failures" or link to failures
... likes this idea. will suggest to Bruce to bring it up for wcag 2.2

<shadi> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/400

no objections

shadi: #400 is typo

<shadi> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/401

no objections

shadi: #401 fix broken link

no objections to 401

<shadi> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/402

shadi: 402 - broken in page link

no objections to 402

<shadi> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/403

shadi: broken link fragment in wcag2.1

no objections to 403

<shadi> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/404

shadi: from David McDonald who +1 CFC
... put 2 typ comments in a pull request

no objections to 404

<shadi> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/issues/405

shadi: issue also from David McDonald, suggest change inapplicable to nonapplicable so NA can be used
... used inapplicable for EARL
... inapplicable is in many parts of the doc. suggest leaving as is

anne: if change, will also have to change rules which is a lot of work

wilco: too late to change

<shadi> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/issues/384

shadi: will respond to issue and close
... anne suggested wording change in requirements mapping: level A and above, instead of just level A

anne: confused conformance level with level

shadi: "and above" is understood

wilco: if a SC is required for Level A and Level AA, it is a Level A SC

shadi: it is correct, but isn't necessary

anne: we often say "level" but mean "conformance level" but mean other

<shadi> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#cc1

wilco: a level A SC is required for conformance level AA
... only a change to examples?

anne: only for examples in accessibility mapping

<shadi> Required for conformance to WCAG 2.0 and WCAG 2.1 level A [and above]

anne: it would be 2 examples in latest draft

shadi: 2 examples in example 5

wilco: and example 6

anne: total 3 examples

maryjo: what is above?

anne: AA and AAA

<Wilco> "In order to meet the needs of different groups and different situations, three levels of conformance are defined: A (lowest), AA, and AAA (highest)."

maryjo: A is the highest level of conformance

wilco: "and higher"?
... will create pull request

<shadi> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/issues/365

shadi: will submit implementation report, but hasn't happened, suggest closing
... other issues are for rules repository
... that will close all issues and comments

wilco: what happens after CFC is approved?

shadi: I will put in transition request, AC survey form to AC members, a blog and announcement (package for publication)
... questions about implementation report, and may not need an exit meeting if questions can be resolved by email
... decision is likely Friday and publish the week after

wilco: implementation matrix discussion

<shadi> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/1.0/CR/implementation-report#imprep_aria

shadi: on left side: features and test cases. across top: implementations. each test case result
... for ours, show automated, RGAA, Trusted Tester

wilco: most of the rules we have at least one implementation that we could show. RGAA has the most
... some rules don't have implementations. do we want to show that?

shadi: are the implementations all green?
... saw some "untested"

wilco: some rules may need to be rerun
... ok with a table but it may raise questions

shadi: let's leave it for now

Need more rules to be implemented

wilco: from last week's conversation, there are 2 rules in ACT-R that have 3 implementations
... we'll need more to make progress
... request implementers to do more testing to publish more rules
... suggestions to help move forward?

shadi: there will be a blog post.
... TPG is doing some testing
... send a formal announcement to organizations

wilco: anyone doing something at testing symposium?

shadi: I plan to be there
... should be published then

wilco: should have a first batch of rules to publish soon

Promotion of the standard & rules development work

wilco: we just talked about this. are there others doing anything to get ACT to recommendation?

shadi: check if this is of interest in organization - siteimprove, IBM, level access
... messaging could be participation in development of rules, promote
... testimonials, quotes of support

maryjo: takes a while to get approval for quote

shadi: testimonials would be good for Oct timeframe
... for now, twitter, blogs

anne: what is timeline?

shadi: 29 July week for publishing
... W3C will blog, announcement. you can retweet

anne: will find publicity team

agarrison: will investigate

wilco: do you want to reach out to TPG?

shadi: yes

anne: will there be a draft before that week?

shadi: will send by mid next week

Future work/outlook for the ACT TF

shadi: we are in transition from spec development to pre-processing proposed rules on behalf of working group
... more a rule publication mode
... revisit process document, learn by doing when submitting first batch to group
... here are rules with 3 implementation that are ready (do they meet the criteria)

wilco: should we look for others to join the group like wcag veterans

shadi: I think so

<shadi> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/work-statement

shadi: some may be more interested in the rules than spec development so they may want to join

maryjo: would this group also incorporate completed rules into wcag?

shadi: that is planned at wai

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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