W3C

– DRAFT –
DXWG CNEG Telecon

11 July 2019

Attendees

Present
LarsG, ncar, roba
Regrets
Chair
roba
Scribe
LarsG

Meeting minutes

<roba> * webex link seems dead - do we have a new one?

<ncar> https://‌csiro.webex.com/‌csiro/‌j.php?MTID=m024017e55536334cf73ae2c56bdfe245

<ncar> * I think you asked last week too!

confirm agenda https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌wiki/‌Meetings:CNEG-Telecon2019.07.11

+1

<ncar> +1

<roba> +1

<roba> proposed: approve minutes https://‌www.w3.org/‌2019/‌07/‌04-dxwgcneg-minutes

+1

<ncar> +1

<roba> +1

Resolved: approve minutes https://‌www.w3.org/‌2019/‌07/‌04-dxwgcneg-minutes

open action items https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌track/‌products/‌4

action-193?

<trackbot> action-193: Rob Atkinson to Move jmeter test suite to within w3c systems -- due 2018-09-05 -- OPEN

roba: need to continue work on this one

ncar: have got funding to work on this. Will commence on Wednesday.

action-337?

<trackbot> action-337: Rob Atkinson to Contact plh about web architecture issues arising from #603 -- due 2019-06-06 -- OPEN

roba: Have not followed through. The responses so far have not showed any possibility
… to fix this. If the profile is on the "other side of the redirect"
… we just have to accept that this is part of Web Architecture
… We should resolve by saying that the client simply has to trust that
… the profile of the retrieved resource is what they asked for.
… We can put this into the WD and ask W3C people for review.
… Propose that we close this and open a new issue in GitHub.
… Will then make a new PR addressing #603.

Action: roba to create new GH Issue explaining the problem of redirects and refer to that issue in the WD

<trackbot> Created ACTION-347 - Create new gh issue explaining the problem of redirects and refer to that issue in the wd [on Rob Atkinson - due 2019-07-18].

close action-341

<trackbot> Closed action-341.

open action-341

close action-337

<trackbot> Closed action-337.

action-341?

<trackbot> action-341: Lars G. Svensson to To final review and reply to tom formally -- due 2019-06-27 -- OPEN

LarsG: Still open, need some more feedback. Will send off to Tom as soon as that's clarified

roba: One main issue with the definition is the conflation of document and specification
… let's deal with the top level problem

Answer to TomB

roba: We should remove the DCMI example.

ncar: We can follow the example given by ODRL

<ncar> https://‌github.com/‌CSIRO-enviro-informatics/‌csiro-epub-dcap

Keeping the IETF & W3C drafts in sync (i. e. definition of profile)

roba: The expectation is to have a definition that is consistent over all documents
… we look at what was voted and discuss that in the IETF context.

Status check of 3PWD Issues:

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌milestone/‌20 open issues

<ncar> Ordered: https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A%22Conneg+3PWD%22

ncar: don't understand Karen's last comment
… there are no live profiles out there (yet)

roba: perhaps we can use ODRL profile URIs

Action: @ncar create PR with real examnples to solve #287

<trackbot> Error finding '@ncar'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌track/‌users>.

roba: Issue #384: don't know if the LDP is alive enough to be referenced here.
… suggest that we close it as not-resolved, since we don't have any information on how this is used

Action: @LarsG move text from IETF to conneg draft for #500

<trackbot> Error finding '@LarsG'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌track/‌users>.

Action: ncar to create PR with real examples to solve #287

<trackbot> Created ACTION-348 - Create pr with real examples to solve #287 [on Nicholas Car - due 2019-07-18].

Action: LarsG to move text from IETF to conneg draft for #500

<trackbot> Created ACTION-349 - Move text from ietf to conneg draft for #500 [on Lars G. Svensson - due 2019-07-18].

Summary of action items

  1. roba to create new GH Issue explaining the problem of redirects and refer to that issue in the WD
  2. @ncar create PR with real examnples to solve #287
  3. @LarsG move text from IETF to conneg draft for #500
  4. ncar to create PR with real examples to solve #287
  5. LarsG to move text from IETF to conneg draft for #500

Summary of resolutions

  1. approve minutes https://‌www.w3.org/‌2019/‌07/‌04-dxwgcneg-minutes
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by Bert Bos's scribe.perl version Mon Apr 15 13:11:59 2019 UTC, a reimplementation of David Booth's scribe.perl. See history.