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11:59:59 <trackbot> Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
11:59:59 <trackbot> Date: 11 July 2019
12:00:23 <LarsG> Meeting: DXWG CNEG Telecon
12:00:38 <LarsG> RRSAgent, make logs public
12:00:50 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
12:00:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/07/11-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG
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12:03:02 <roba> * webex link seems dead - do we have a new one?
12:03:28 <ncar> https://csiro.webex.com/csiro/j.php?MTID=m024017e55536334cf73ae2c56bdfe245
12:03:37 <ncar> * I think you asked last week too!
12:06:29 <LarsG> Chair: roba
12:06:38 <LarsG> scribeNick: LarsG
12:07:13 <roba> TOPIC: confirm agenda https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:CNEG-Telecon2019.07.11
12:07:20 <LarsG> +1
12:07:22 <ncar> +1
12:07:47 <roba> +1
12:08:25 <roba> proposed: approve minutes https://www.w3.org/2019/07/04-dxwgcneg-minutes
12:08:29 <LarsG> +1
12:08:36 <ncar> +1
12:08:51 <roba> +1
12:08:59 <roba> resolved: approve minutes https://www.w3.org/2019/07/04-dxwgcneg-minutes
12:09:16 <roba> TOPIC: open action items https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/products/4
12:09:26 <LarsG> action-193?
12:09:26 <trackbot> action-193 -- Rob Atkinson to Move jmeter test suite to within w3c systems -- due 2018-09-05 -- OPEN
12:09:26 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/193
12:10:06 <LarsG> roba: need to continue work on this one
12:10:45 <LarsG> ncar: have got funding to work on this. Will commence on Wednesday.
12:10:59 <LarsG> action-337?
12:10:59 <trackbot> action-337 -- Rob Atkinson to Contact plh about web architecture issues arising from #603 -- due 2019-06-06 -- OPEN
12:10:59 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/337
12:11:29 <LarsG> roba: Have not followed through. The responses so far have not showed any possibility
12:11:44 <LarsG> ... to fix this. If the profile is on the "other side of the redirect"
12:12:00 <LarsG> ... we just have to accept that this is part of Web Architecture
12:14:22 <LarsG> ... We should resolve by saying that the client simply has to trust that
12:14:39 <LarsG> ... the profile of the retrieved resource is what they asked for.
12:15:03 <LarsG> ... We can put this into the WD and ask W3C people for review.
12:15:26 <LarsG> ... Propose that we close this and open a new issue in GitHub.
12:15:47 <LarsG> ... Will then make a new PR addressing #603.
12:17:00 <LarsG> Action: roba to create new GH Issue explaining the problem of redirects and refer to that issue in the WD
12:17:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-347 - Create new gh issue explaining the problem of redirects and refer to that issue in the wd [on Rob Atkinson - due 2019-07-18].
12:17:14 <LarsG> close action-341
12:17:14 <trackbot> Closed action-341.
12:17:24 <LarsG> open action-341
12:17:49 <LarsG> close action-337
12:17:49 <trackbot> Closed action-337.
12:18:35 <LarsG> action-341?
12:18:35 <trackbot> action-341 -- Lars G. Svensson to To final review and reply to tom formally -- due 2019-06-27 -- OPEN
12:18:35 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/341
12:19:33 <LarsG> LarsG: Still open, need some more feedback. Will send off to Tom as soon as that's clarified
12:22:02 <LarsG> roba: One main issue with the definition is the conflation of document and specification
12:24:18 <LarsG> ... let's deal with the top level problem
12:24:48 <LarsG> Topic: Answer to TomB
12:27:11 <LarsG> roba: We should remove the DCMI example.
12:27:22 <LarsG> ncar: We can follow the example given by ODRL
12:35:14 <ncar> https://github.com/CSIRO-enviro-informatics/csiro-epub-dcap
12:46:48 <LarsG> Topic: Keeping the IETF & W3C drafts in sync (i. e. definition of profile)
12:48:06 <LarsG> roba: The expectation is to have a definition that is consistent over all documents
12:48:47 <LarsG> ... we look at what was voted and discuss that in the IETF context.
12:49:37 <LarsG> Topic: Status check of 3PWD Issues:
12:49:44 <roba> TOPIC: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/20 open issues
12:51:43 <ncar> Ordered: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A%22Conneg+3PWD%22
12:53:29 <LarsG> ncar: don't understand Karen's  last comment
12:53:41 <LarsG> ... there are no live profiles out there (yet)
12:53:52 <LarsG> roba: perhaps we can use ODRL profile URIs
12:54:26 <roba> ACTION: @ncar create PR with real examnples to solve #287
12:54:27 <trackbot> Error finding '@ncar'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/users>.
12:55:29 <LarsG> roba: Issue #384: don't know if the LDP is alive enough to be referenced here.
12:56:13 <LarsG> ... suggest that we close it as not-resolved, since we don't have any information on how this is used
12:58:40 <roba> ACTION: @LarsG move text from IETF to conneg draft for #500
12:58:40 <trackbot> Error finding '@LarsG'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/users>.
13:00:02 <LarsG> ACTION: ncar to create PR with real examples to solve #287
13:00:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-348 - Create pr with real examples to solve #287 [on Nicholas Car - due 2019-07-18].
13:00:17 <LarsG> ACTION: LarsG to move text from IETF to conneg draft for #500
13:00:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-349 - Move text from ietf to conneg draft for #500 [on Lars G. Svensson - due 2019-07-18].
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14:53:31 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
14:53:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/07/11-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG
14:55:34 <LarsG> present+ LarsG
14:55:38 <LarsG> present+ ncar
14:55:43 <LarsG> present+ roba
14:55:46 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
14:55:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/07/11-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG