W3C

– DRAFT –
DXWG DCAT subgroup teleconference

10 July 2019

Attendees

Present
alejandra, AndreaPerego, DaveBrowning, makx, PWinstanley, riccardoAlbertoni, SimonCox
Regrets
Chair
DaveBrowning
Scribe
SimonCox

Meeting minutes

method for completing the PR

DaveBrowning: should we just use the spreadsheet from riccardoAlbertoni ?

https://‌docs.google.com/‌spreadsheets/‌d/‌1biOFTFAlF6wd7nhi5MsSusMokfdbwWII9OXSyfAw2iQ/‌edit?ts=5d25ee55#gid=0

DaveBrowning: probably not enought time to complete everything in spreadsheet

DaveBrowning: which are most critical?
… (some of us have tuned out from DCAT recently, ... SimonCox DaveBrowning alejandra )

alejandra: riccardoAlbertoni 's table is a good start.
… several can be pruned/merged/closed
… we never did continuous integration and it would be good to add it so that we get automatic checks on the RDF
… has anyone checked that document and RDF are fully aligned recently?

SimonCox: volunteers needed for 'assigned to' column in spreadsheet

#944 Protege problem with owl:Constraint :-(

Makx: we shouldn't do anything - there is no problem with the vcard issue

riccardoAlbertoni: need to respond to the comment, explaining that we believe the structure is fine, esp with backward compatbility concerns

alejandra: this is the same issue we discussed a long time ago #109 contact point issues - vCard is OK - it is contact details, rather than agent

<AndreaPerego> Can we make a tentative proposal we can vote on?

<alejandra> sounds good

Proposed: respond to renato explaning difference between contact point and agent - leave as is

+1

<DaveBrowning> +1

<AndreaPerego> +1

<Makx> +1

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1

<alejandra> +1

Action: Makx to draft response to Renato on vCard issue

<trackbot> Created ACTION-344 - Draft response to renato on vcard issue [on Makx Dekkers - due 2019-07-17].

Resolved: respond to renato explaning difference between contact point and agent - leave as is

#935

alejandra: back to #935 - Makx suggested we use the word 'file' in documentation, instead of 'distribution'

<AndreaPerego> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌935

alejandra: elsewhere we use 'distribution' as the noun consistently, e.g. format. It would be inconsistent to change it to 'file' for only these properties related to compression

Makx: votes for consistency

<riccardoAlbertoni> I agree with alejandra, I can remove the PR

alejandra: prefer to revert to 'distribution' rather than 'file' for internal consistency

<AndreaPerego> +1 from me

<Makx> +1 to alejandra

<riccardoAlbertoni> not sure about the changes ..

SimonCox: add nearby clarification 'in many cases a distribution will be packaged as a file' or something similar
… as usage note

Clarify - use 'distribution' in all places.

<riccardoAlbertoni> Yes i can do it

<DaveBrowning> #959

<AndreaPerego> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌959

Makx: this is not a problem with DCAT - it is with Dublin Core - we can't or shouldn't do anything

<AndreaPerego> +1 to Makx

Makx: DC have said they will action, we have to wait for them

+1

<DaveBrowning> 0 (agree with principle)

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1

<alejandra> +0

No change needed

Action: DaveBrowning to draft response on language tags

<trackbot> Created ACTION-345 - Draft response on language tags [on David Browning - due 2019-07-17].

<riccardoAlbertoni> 970 ?

<DaveBrowning> Yes, https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌970

Use of w3cgeo 'Point' in dct:Location -

SimonCox: explain issue with normative/non-normative status of alternatives
… and too many options are not good for interoperability

AndreaPerego: anyway we don't have explicit UC motivating this
… so agree with SimonCox proposal to remove w3geo from normative recommendation, perhaps leave example

Proposed: remove w3geo Point from normative recommendation for dct:Location

+1

<DaveBrowning> +1

<alejandra> +1

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1

<alejandra> should we also say that we agree on leaving the example in?

Action: SimonCox to process w3cgeo Point changes

<trackbot> Created ACTION-346 - Process w3cgeo point changes [on Simon Cox - due 2019-07-17].

SimonCox: to add some more words showing how w3cgeo is 'equivalent' but should not be used by itself - only to duplicate the WKT 'centroid' formulation
… in the worked example

<alejandra> yes

DaveBrowning: Steve Richard does raise interesting principle about interoperability, when multiple options are provided.

DaveBrowning: at what point will we have stable document for "Candidate Recommendation"?
… 3 weeks? Need to have responded to all feedback received during consultation.
… (running into northern summer)

riccardoAlbertoni: could we postpone PR to September? Is that an option?

I would prefer not to defer any longer ...

<Makx> Candidate comes before Candidate Recommendation https://‌www.w3.org/‌2004/‌02/‌Process-20040205/‌tr.html#cfi

Whoops

s/Proposed Recommendation/Candidate Recommendation/

s/Proposed Recommendation/Candidate Recommendation/

<AndreaPerego> So we should probably restore our regular weekly meetings to be sure we sort out things quickly

+1 AndreaPerego

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to andrea proposal

<DaveBrowning> +1

<Makx> +1

<alejandra> +1

Resolved: 1. restore weekly meetings 2. push to get CR out before northern summer vacations :-)

<riccardoAlbertoni> what date again ?

PWinstanley: to aim for meeting with Phillipe 31 July
… to progress DCAT to CR

riccardoAlbertoni: will work before holidays and trust the other editors

<Zakim> AndreaPerego, you wanted to say we can close https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌974 following the decision about https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌970

PWinstanley: hold meeting with Phillipe at normal time

<AndreaPerego> Thanks everyone

<Makx> thanks,bye

<riccardoAlbertoni> thanks, bye

<PWinstanley> bye!

Summary of action items

  1. Makx to draft response to Renato on vCard issue
  2. DaveBrowning to draft response on language tags
  3. SimonCox to process w3cgeo Point changes

Summary of resolutions

  1. respond to renato explaning difference between contact point and agent - leave as is
  2. 1. restore weekly meetings 2. push to get CR out before northern summer vacations :-)
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by Bert Bos's scribe.perl version Mon Apr 15 13:11:59 2019 UTC, a reimplementation of David Booth's scribe.perl. See history.

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Succeeded: s/never did continuous integration/we never did continuous integration and it would be good to add it so that we get automatic checks on the RDF

Succeeded: s/#954//

Succeeded: s/Clrify/Clarify/

Succeeded: s/scribe SimonCox/scribe: SimonCox/

Succeeded: s/Proposed Recommendation/Candidate Recommendation/

Succeeded: s/Proposed Recommendation/Candidate Recommendation/

Failed: s/Proposed Recommendation/Candidate Recommendation/

Failed: s/Proposed Recommendation/Candidate Recommendation/

Maybe present: Proposed